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This is what passes for higher education?!!! Far to generalized for my tastes. Where is the empherical data on the effectiveness of these modifications. Many are barely discussed. On the whole, not worth printing out.....maybe the biblography; there might be a gem or two in it.
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As this is a WW 2 board, just on the WW 2 part: Passing mention of concrete armor, applique armor (very important mod along with wet stowage), and no emperical discussion of the effectiveness of these methods. The discussion of add-on armor packages to vehicles is given passing attention. This is particularly noteworthy as there were glacis add on packages that many M4 got giving them more armor there than a Panther and making them invulnerable to the 75L48. Nothing is mentioned for example of the 7th Army mod to put an armored roof on all of their M 36 and M 10 tank destroyers (post war a better kit was adopted). Nothing on use of screens and fencing as an anti-panzerfaust / lunge mine defense (well, a very brief mention). On the other hand much is made of the Culin hedgerow cutter, a modification that while effective, was necessary for a very short period of fighting compared to the above. Even a thesis should try to present the topic with an eye to thorough coverage and, more importantly, a showing by the writer of analytical ability rather than just recitation of facts. The author's conclusions are in part just wrong (the primary threat in Europe was infantry AT weapons not tank and towed guns...look at kill percentages and causes) and in part gloss over the utility of improvised armor. He basically dismisses it as not worth the effort while giving grudging approval for its "limited" ability to protect vehicles. When you go beyond WW 2 he does the same thing. No mention of the add-on armor shields that eventually wound up as the ACAV mod kit for the M113. It is obvious one of the biggest threats to crews of AFV in Vietnam was small arms fire, probably far more than the RPG. The crews reacted to this appropriately. Yet, this is missed. And, today in Iraq you see the same kinds of improvised armor on vehicles yet again for essentially the same reason.....fragments and small arms not AT weapons. If anything, a better conclusion would be that crews quickly see the threats to their lives and act to do what they can to counter those threats. The recommendation should be that the official response is to quickly issue semi- or expert instruction on which and how to best utilize improvised armor rather than dismiss it as officially "worthless." Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 09-05-2007 at 11:02 PM. |
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