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29-04-2008, 08:29 AM
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 | Stg-44 I was just wondering why the stg-44 is also called mp44? I have been told that Hitler didn't like the name of the gun, and they changed it to stg44 (Sturmgewehr44) I'm wondering if anyone can confirm this? Please correct me if i'm wrong.  Thanks, Michael Last edited by Panzerschreck; 29-04-2008 at 11:54 AM. |
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29-04-2008, 12:24 PM
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| My tuppenceworth on the naming, which I think is the standard version, is on this thread Michael: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/general/9813-stg-44-a.html Quote:
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29-04-2008, 01:01 PM
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| Was it a successful design? did the troops in the field like it?
__________________ "The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse." - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino) |
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29-04-2008, 01:05 PM
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| Yes was very popular ,also for allied troops to get one, I know that it was used at Arnhem, I think last year the AB museum got one for their collection, and at the military barracks were I work in Arnhem, 3 months ago one was digged up. |
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29-04-2008, 02:48 PM
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Yep, it think most people would agree it was a success. Its generally held to be the farther of the modern assult rifle and often misreported that the AK47 is a copy, (although I understand the mechanism is quite different). although the concept of a slightly lower power cartridge is now accepted as correct. Its quite interesting, I was reading about it not long ago, but after the war the British where quite sure the main battle rifle cartridge had had its day and wanted a much smaller bullet with an intermediatte cartridge. and developed a rifle to use it (wich looked a lot like the SA80 god help us!) but the yanks would have none of it. After while the yanks realised the limeys where right after all. Change the M14 to single shot and brought out the M16. It all goes round in circles, I read somewhere the US army is issueing .45" M1911 handguns again after the 9mm Brownings lacked stopping power in Somalia... Nothing New under the sun they say... Kev | |
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29-04-2008, 02:56 PM
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| You can see from it Kev, where the designs were heading. How reliable was it I wonder?
__________________ "The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse." - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino) |
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29-04-2008, 03:52 PM
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| Amazing how Germany came up with such designs and get them into mass production while under such pressure. The Panther, the me262 thel ist goes on. I guess most had their routes way before WW, but its still an amazing achievement. |
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29-04-2008, 04:21 PM
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| For those two (Panther & StG.) it's pretty safe to say they were designed & built very much under wartime pressure from start to 'finish'. Neither has much in common with any pre-war work by Germany. I'm often the first to enjoy critiquing chinks in German equipment and supply, but it has to be said there were some first class brains around. Good job the 'talent' was never as well directed as it might have been.
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29-04-2008, 06:07 PM
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__________________ 'There I stood at the bar, wearing a Mae West, no jacket, and beginning to leak blood from my torn boot. None of the golfers took any notice of me - after all, I wasn't a member!' Kenneth Lee - after being shot down on the 18th August 1940. We had a squadron commander who believed in the head-on attack. 'The next raid we go up to intercept, we will do a head-on attack,' he said. So he attacked an Me 110 head-on and I'm afraid Jerry got the better of him and all we found of him was his shirt! Flying Officer Harold Bird-Wilson, 17 Squadron.  |
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