Mp-40 Submachine Gun

[armourersergeant]

and another. oh and also it could come with a folding stock. it was cheap good and plentiful on the eastern front.

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Arm.

[stuka101]

What was the difference between the PPSH-41 and The PPSH-42?

Thanks

Currahee

[armourersergeant]

Oops egg on face hide in corner time!!!!

I meant to say PPSH 41, i think the PPSh 42 was the folding stock version.



In essence I meant the whole PPSh series (he says covering his embarresment)

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Arm.

[spider]

I believe that an Australian soldier on the Kokoda Track in PNG used an MP 40. The soldier had brought it back from the Middle East.

[paulyb102]

pic of an mp-40

[plant-pilot]

Originally posted by armourersergeant@Oct 28 2004, 10:00 PM
it could take a drum Thompson like magazine and also a slightly bent thin mp40 magazine. It could reputedly keep firing under all circumastances, water, cold, dirt etc.

Although some weapons are obviously more reliable than others, the trouble with a weapon getting a reputation for keeping going no matter what state they are in, is that the soldiers that use thae weapon think they can get away with not cleaning it. All weapons have stoppages and the best way to avoid them is to assume that it's only a reliable weapon when it's clean.

The PPSh's reliability came from it's 'agricultural like' construction and the 'simple' pesant army who would did as they were told and cleaned their weapons regularly.

[morse1001]

A Standard test for weapons is the "toothpaste test" As you put a round in the mag, you cover it with a layer of toothpaste until the mag is full then fire ot down the range until it stops. The SLR used to manage a full mag of twenty rounds before stopping.


EDIT by Owen:
how very odd, all the next posts in this thread were "inside" this post.
I had to edit this post to "free" all the other posts into the forum correctly.
strange, very strange.

[sappernz]

The MP 40 along with the MP 38 is often called the Schmeisser although Hugo Schmeisser had nothing to do with its early manufacture, or its design.
The MP4O was a cheaper to produce version of the 38 and its mass production was unique in that different firms made different parts which were brought together for assembly.
In 1943 a twin magazine model was made to match the Russian PPSh41 which had a 71 round drum magazine.
Two 32 round magazines were held in the housing and slid across one after the other.
The increased weight meant it was not a success.
The wooden stock model was the Mp41 or MP41/1.
On another subject the Vickers 303 machine gun was highly regarded. It is recorded that one was test fired for 7 days without malfunctioning. However the quality of ammo could affect its performance. There was a round developed for the Vickers specifically, the Mark 8z and this added another 1000 yards to its range.
No wonder the Germans called the Vickers "whispering death."

[angie999]

Originally posted by sappernz@Jan 30 2005, 03:10 AM
On another subject the Vickers 303 machine gun was highly regarded. It is recorded that one was test fired for 7 days without malfunctioning. However the quality of ammo could affect its performance. There was a round developed for the Vickers specifically, the Mark 8z and this added another 1000 yards to its range.
No wonder the Germans called the Vickers "whispering death."

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Although of a much more advanced design and with a much higher rate of fire, you certainly couldn't fire a German MG34 or MG42 for 7 days. In fact, to prevent overheating they had to change barrels after not many seconds of firing.

[morse1001]

Originally posted by sappernz@Jan 30 2005, 03:10 AM

On another subject the Vickers 303 machine gun was highly regarded. It is recorded that one was test fired for 7 days without malfunctioning. However the quality of ammo could affect its performance. There was a round developed for the Vickers specifically, the Mark 8z and this added another 1000 yards to its range.
No wonder the Germans called the Vickers "whispering death."

Quoted post

at the Battle of Imjim River during the Korean War, the unit Vickers fired around 1 million rounds during the battle without major problems.