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02-08-2006, 05:48 PM
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| I Like Tanks   Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion.
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  | Panther Versus Pershing in Cologne. Not sure If this famous bit of footage of a Panther being finished off by a Pershing in Cologne has been on here before... so I thought I'd add it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NF30nbEJ...0Germany%20USA Strong Stuff. consider that this Panther had been believed knocked out and then hit 2 unsuspecting Shermans before it and it's crew's final destruction. It seems there is a longer version out there somewhere, can anyone find it on the web? Good frame by frame analysis here: http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feat...ates.index.htm And an excellent addition to the story here: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=165131 Must be one of the most photographed German Tanks of the war. Cheers, Adam Last edited by von Poop; 02-08-2006 at 07:38 PM. Reason: removed dead link |
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03-08-2006, 09:16 PM
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| Pretty impressive vid. See the ammo cooking off, really starts to brew up after the second hit. very lucky to get out of that. Does look like the pershing gun is able to penerate the panthers side armour there. Seems to be little explosin is this cos the shell is penetrating and exploding inside the panther? Kev |
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03-08-2006, 09:30 PM
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| Nice little penetration table for the 90mm Gun here: ,http://gva.freeweb.hu/weapons/usa_guns7.html (haven't checked it but as it cites Hunnicutt it's probably fine) suspect the flash is ammo igniting or some other thermal effect from the shell hitting as I don't think the Pershing could fire anything other than solid shot?? Cheers, Adam. |
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04-08-2006, 07:52 PM
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| Yep it says the AP round was solid shot, seems to have the desired effect. I often find its the small stories like this that really bring it home. Last edited by kfz; 04-08-2006 at 09:00 PM. |
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04-08-2006, 09:12 PM
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| Was the track idler wheel allready shot off? None of the Pershing shots are in this area (good shooting BTW, right inot the crew cabin, with every shot) but afterward pics clearly show the wheel missing and track loose. Maybe it was imobilised and not knocked out to begin with. Also why didnt they move to more defensibe postion instead of allowing themselves to get flanked if the tank was mobile. This might have tricked the Shermans into thinking it was knocked out. The driver was still in there, I guess the driver wouldnt be sitting in his seat if he had nothing to do...... MAybe the track was damaged in the subsquent ammo cooking off explosions. Kev Last edited by kfz; 04-08-2006 at 09:14 PM. |
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04-08-2006, 09:21 PM
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| Just noticed a more complete version with commentary and Veteran recollection here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LqH_WEqNK...0Germany%20USA |
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05-12-2007, 12:57 PM
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| Some more pictures of the Koln cathedral Panther. It was not however the first tank in that square. My search was triggered off by the discovery of the last photo of that pair of Mk.V's from 'The complete guide to Tanks and AFV's' by Forty & Livesey Quote:
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30-07-2008, 11:32 AM
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| EDIT: Ignore this Adam already posted it in post #7. Quality a bit better in this one. YouTube - Pershing vs Panther Cologne 1945 Last edited by Owen; 30-07-2008 at 11:52 AM. |
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30-07-2008, 07:33 PM
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| I humbly ask the Lords of the Iron Coffins: Which of this two behemoths was better one on one? My small but ever-developing knowledge of WW2 tells me that the M26, 90mm included, was at least equal to the german heavy hardware, but, is it true?
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