Honey tanks - Page 2

Ron Goldstein · 09-01-2007, 03:02 PM

Owen

I must point out something on the BBC site that has caused me, and some of my friends, much amusement.

If you use the link above to go back to the original posting, have a look at the banner to the upper right that shows the different categories.
Click on the ARMY ikon and up will come a larger picture.

The BBC finally finished up using Cpl.Ron Goldstein as representing the British Army

Ah me...... fame at last !

von Poop · 09-01-2007, 03:59 PM

Poster-boy for the entire ww2 British Army at the BBC? That's pretty good going, sure the royalty check's in the post...or maybe not.

Got some decent pictures of a beautiful Turretless Stuart restoration that turned up at Beltring last year, I'll scan 'em in when I can find the damned things.

von Poop · 10-02-2007, 10:46 PM

Found 'em. Didn't scan in too well, and haven't corrected much in Photoshop, hard to believe it was one of the sunniest days of the year.

Ron Goldstein · 10-02-2007, 11:04 PM

Hi
Many thanks for those cracking photos.
If my memory serves me rightly, my Honey had a 30mm Browning mounted forward and a 50mm aft. They were both swivel mounted and the 50mm was strictly for anti-aircraft use.
Other arms we had on board were a 2inch mortar mounted on the right hand side facing front, a Thomson sub-machine gun, a boxful of grenades and of course we all had our Smith & Wessons revolvers.
A turret would have been nice, but then, you can't have everything !

von Poop · 10-02-2007, 11:10 PM

A pleasure Ron,
My pictures really don't do the recent restoration justice, It was an exceptionally good job.
On similar lines to Owen's comment though; It's all very well to enjoy the thing on a sunny day in 2006, a different matter entirely when some bu**er might start shooting at you!
Cheers,
Adam.

Owen · 10-02-2007, 11:13 PM

Nice restoration website here.
752nd M5A1 Stuart Tank Restoration

Owen · 11-02-2007, 01:50 PM

My only pic from tankfest of a Stuart.
Someone having a laugh calling it "Destroyer"?

Ron Goldstein · 11-02-2007, 03:01 PM

Gentlemen

When you saw these "restoration" Honeys did any of them have the canvas canopys installed ?

These were exactly like those one used to see on a pram and would lay on the back of the tank until required and would then be unfolded and locked into place.

Cheers

Ron

Owen · 11-02-2007, 03:18 PM

Ron,
What like this?
Light tank M3 - Stuart

http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks...h/m3/03701.jpg

I see in Burma they added an anti-grenade mesh.

http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks...h/m3/03700.jpg

Owen · 11-02-2007, 03:25 PM

18/4/1945

A & B Sqns forming part of 2nd Armd Bde Grp advanced to form bridgehead across FOSSA SABBASOLA at 240665. B Sqn in reserve. A Sqn worked hard all day to be rewarded with excellent results. RHQ Tp on the CL did bulk of the work but suffered 2 Kangaroo casualties. Air bursts over the 2i/c’s Honey badly wounded 2 of the crew. In general the enemy were taken by surprise. Many SPs and Mark IVs were encountered but in conjunction with excellent fighter-bomber support throughout the day the majority were destroyed. Bag estimated to be 5 SPs, 8 Mark IV and five 88’s. towards evening the Grp captured artillery personnel with their 105’s intact. Sqn leaguered in area 252668. Major Ogier, OC B Sqn was wounded and evacuated. One OR killed and three wounded.C Sqn Kangaroos were used to ferry supplies to troops on the bank of the GAIANA and to bring back the wounded.

War Diary of the 4th Hussars in 1945

Ron, would one of those wounded been Corp Todd as mentioned in your article?
BBC - WW2 People's War - The Day I Should Have Died: 4th Queen's Own Hussars in Italy

Quote:

Wednesday 18 April 1945
"Stonked near wood for solid hour. Corporal Todd wounded badly in head when air-burst caught their Honey. Farmhouses burning, stuck in ditch."

10-02-2007, 10:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,364	Found 'em. Didn't scan in too well, and haven't corrected much in Photoshop, hard to believe it was one of the sunniest days of the year. __________________ It's only the Internet.

10-02-2007, 11:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 813	Hi Many thanks for those cracking photos. If my memory serves me rightly, my Honey had a 30mm Browning mounted forward and a 50mm aft. They were both swivel mounted and the 50mm was strictly for anti-aircraft use. Other arms we had on board were a 2inch mortar mounted on the right hand side facing front, a Thomson sub-machine gun, a boxful of grenades and of course we all had our Smith & Wessons revolvers. A turret would have been nice, but then, you can't have everything ! __________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942 Served as a Wireless-Op with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps. Served as a Loader-Op with the 4th QOH from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) Finished up as Tech Cpl for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

10-02-2007, 11:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,364	A pleasure Ron, My pictures really don't do the recent restoration justice, It was an exceptionally good job. On similar lines to Owen's comment though; It's all very well to enjoy the thing on a sunny day in 2006, a different matter entirely when some bu**er might start shooting at you! Cheers, Adam. __________________ It's only the Internet.

11-02-2007, 03:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 813	Gentlemen When you saw these "restoration" Honeys did any of them have the canvas canopys installed ? These were exactly like those one used to see on a pram and would lay on the back of the tank until required and would then be unfolded and locked into place. Cheers Ron __________________ If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel circa 30 BCE I was "Called-up" in Oct 1942 Served as a Wireless-Op with the 49th LAA (78 Div) from Apr 1943 to Dec 1944 (North Africa,Sicily,Italy, Egypt). The Regiment was disbanded in Dec 1944 and I was retrained (in Italy) by the Royal Armoured Corps. Served as a Loader-Op with the 4th QOH from Mar 1945 to Jan 1946 (Italy, Austria, Germany) Finished up as Tech Cpl for "A" Sqdrn. I was "De-mobbed" in Apr 1947

11-02-2007, 03:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,306	Ron, What like this? Light tank M3 - Stuart http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks...h/m3/03701.jpg I see in Burma they added an anti-grenade mesh. http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks...h/m3/03700.jpg Last edited by Owen; 11-02-2007 at 03:38 PM.

09-01-2007, 03:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 813	Owen I must point out something on the BBC site that has caused me, and some of my friends, much amusement. If you use the link above to go back to the original posting, have a look at the banner to the upper right that shows the different categories. Click on the ARMY ikon and up will come a larger picture. The BBC finally finished up using Cpl.Ron Goldstein as representing the British Army Ah me...... fame at last !

09-01-2007, 03:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,364	Poster-boy for the entire ww2 British Army at the BBC? That's pretty good going, sure the royalty check's in the post...or maybe not. Got some decent pictures of a beautiful Turretless Stuart restoration that turned up at Beltring last year, I'll scan 'em in when I can find the damned things.

10-02-2007, 11:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,306	Nice restoration website here. 752nd M5A1 Stuart Tank Restoration

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