Favourite German Tank? - Page 3

Herroberst · 09-08-2006, 06:14 AM

It's always a plus to have a good Sgt. around.

von Poop · 12-08-2006, 09:41 PM

Favourites??...
1&2 - Great looking but pretty worthless post-France.
3 - Another looker but couldn't really hack the upgrade battle.
Panther - For some reason the Panther really annoys me at the moment, not entirely clear why... it just does.
Tiger - was briefly my current 'modern' favourite again after watching '131' roll around Bovington... absolutely shocking 'in the Flesh' but unjustified in German wartime terms.
Tiger2 - How mad is that??
38 - very tempting just for it's stylish 30's looks
so finally I'm going to plump for the:

Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images.

but next week it'll probably be the 38t....

Cheers,
Adam.

Owen · 13-08-2006, 12:05 AM

I vote "other".
A7V from the Great War because it was so rubbish!
Pity they sussed out how to make a good one.
Tiger at Bovy was awesome.(to use a Yank phrase.)
"Royal" Tiger with Henschel turret was good too, pity not a runner.

J_McAllister · 13-08-2006, 12:08 AM

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Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images.

I voted for the Mark IV for the same reasons. If they would have fitted a larger gun on her and concentrated on producing more of them, it could have made a difference in the war.

Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?

Owen · 13-08-2006, 12:13 AM

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Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?

Something to do with turret ring being too small for anything bigger, sure VP knows.

von Poop · 13-08-2006, 01:07 PM

With apologies for the digression:
The 75mm L48 fitted to the last few Ausfs of the MkIV was a pretty good (perfectly adequate unless more M26's IS2's or Comets were fielded) weapon in it's own right, many larger pieces were fitted on Mk.IV chassis in an SPG configuration (75/L70, 10.5/L52, 88/L71, 15/L30 etc.) but the problem was one of scale and particularily traverse. The sheer size of the heavier pieces if fitted to something that was as small as the Mk.IV (in relation to later war designs) would mean at anything other than full forward or reverse traverse the Vehicle would be highly likely to fall over. (witness the British Charioteer & Conway for examples of this

...there has to be a limit at some point.)
Back to the favourites,
Cheers,
Adam

Herroberst · 19-08-2006, 06:52 PM

What was the purpose of the Maus? An excerise in engineering self gratification?

mollusc · 03-01-2007, 01:32 AM

Tiger II - half from an engineering viewpoint, half from being a very good defensive weapon system. Sorry you boys who say it was too big! Too big for what I ask? (No bigger than a Panther).

Owen · 03-01-2007, 09:50 AM

Inspired by Rich Payne's comment about any German tank viewed through sights of a 17 Pdr, my comment is any German tank that wasn't a threat anymore.

Gotthard Heinrici · 03-01-2007, 10:04 AM

went with the mark IV, extremely versatile, proved excellent at being upgraded, could still match a Sherman and was outgunned only in the latter stages of the war.

View Poll Results: Which is your favourite German Tank?
Panzer I	0	0%
Panzer II	0	0%
Panzer III	2	4.44%
Panzer IV	11	24.44%
Panther	12	26.67%
Tiger I	7	15.56%
Tiger II	8	17.78%
38T (not German but widely used)	0	0%
Other	5	11.11%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

09-08-2006, 06:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
Herroberst Very Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the tree line Posts: 1,160	Re: Favourite German Tank? It's always a plus to have a good Sgt. around. __________________ Coir a glaive *Nemo me impune lacessit*

12-08-2006, 09:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,357	Favourites. Favourites??... 1&2 - Great looking but pretty worthless post-France. 3 - Another looker but couldn't really hack the upgrade battle. Panther - For some reason the Panther really annoys me at the moment, not entirely clear why... it just does. Tiger - was briefly my current 'modern' favourite again after watching '131' roll around Bovington... absolutely shocking 'in the Flesh' but unjustified in German wartime terms. Tiger2 - How mad is that?? 38 - very tempting just for it's stylish 30's looks so finally I'm going to plump for the: Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images. but next week it'll probably be the 38t.... Cheers, Adam.

13-08-2006, 12:05 AM	#23 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,302	Re: Favourite German Tank? I vote "other". A7V from the Great War because it was so rubbish! Pity they sussed out how to make a good one. Tiger at Bovy was awesome.(to use a Yank phrase.) "Royal" Tiger with Henschel turret was good too, pity not a runner.

13-08-2006, 12:08 AM	#24 (permalink)
J_McAllister Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 54	Re: Favourites. HTML Code: Mark IV. Most sensible design they fielded given the balance of upgradability/manufacturing capability, only one that served the whole war so it's variety and adaptability gives the most fascinating range of surviving images. I voted for the Mark IV for the same reasons. If they would have fitted a larger gun on her and concentrated on producing more of them, it could have made a difference in the war. Was there a reason why they didn't fit the Mark IV with a larger gun?

13-08-2006, 01:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,357	Re: Favourite German Tank? With apologies for the digression: The 75mm L48 fitted to the last few Ausfs of the MkIV was a pretty good (perfectly adequate unless more M26's IS2's or Comets were fielded) weapon in it's own right, many larger pieces were fitted on Mk.IV chassis in an SPG configuration (75/L70, 10.5/L52, 88/L71, 15/L30 etc.) but the problem was one of scale and particularily traverse. The sheer size of the heavier pieces if fitted to something that was as small as the Mk.IV (in relation to later war designs) would mean at anything other than full forward or reverse traverse the Vehicle would be highly likely to fall over. (witness the British Charioteer & Conway for examples of this ...there has to be a limit at some point.) Back to the favourites, Cheers, Adam

19-08-2006, 06:52 PM	#27 (permalink)
Herroberst Very Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the tree line Posts: 1,160	Re: Favourite German Tank? What was the purpose of the Maus? An excerise in engineering self gratification? __________________ Coir a glaive *Nemo me impune lacessit*

03-01-2007, 01:32 AM	#28 (permalink)
mollusc Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Poised expectantly over the inter-web. Posts: 88	Tiger II - half from an engineering viewpoint, half from being a very good defensive weapon system. Sorry you boys who say it was too big! Too big for what I ask? (No bigger than a Panther). __________________ 'Did it have oceans?' 'Oh yes, great wide rolling blue oceans...' 'Can't bear oceans'

03-01-2007, 09:50 AM	#29 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,302	Inspired by Rich Payne's comment about any German tank viewed through sights of a 17 Pdr, my comment is any German tank that wasn't a threat anymore.

03-01-2007, 10:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,850	went with the mark IV, extremely versatile, proved excellent at being upgraded, could still match a Sherman and was outgunned only in the latter stages of the war. __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian

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