Hurricane variants

Kyt · 31-01-2007, 12:49 PM

Following on from the discussion on the Spitfire v Hurricane, I noticed that there's never been a proper discussion on the Hurricane alone.

So, here are some links (I've only included some of the more interesting ones):

The Hurricane Society

The Hawker Hurricane

Main Menu
(This site has a great page on the different experimental types)

K5083 - Hurricane Projects

The most intriguing has to be <table align="center" border="0" cellspacing="6" height="107" width="75%"><tbody><tr><td height="31" valign="bottom" width="100%">

HILLS FH.40

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</td> </tr> </tbody></table>  HILLS FH.40 - In continuation of work on Hillson Bi-Mono, F Hills and Sons obtained Air Ministry permission to fit a 'slip-wing' to a Hurricane I. Aircraft used was early Mk I, one of 20 transferred to Canada in 1939 and returned to UK in 1942 (originally L1884, but retaining RCAF serial 321 for 'slip-wing' trials). First taxi-trials and flights at RAF Sealand, May 25-28 1943; ferried to A & AEE September 15, 1943. Upper wing, of same span as lower, never slipped in flight.

Hawker Sea Hurricane aircraft profile. Aircraft Database of the Fleet Air Arm Archive 1939-1945

The Hawker Hurricane - the forgotten star of the Battle of Britain.

A list of preserved Hurricanes:
Hurricane

An excellent site for pictures:
Aviation Photos: Hawker Hurricane/Sea Hurricane

Great Pathe film on the Hurricane being tested against a captured Ju88:

ww2 air war footage British hurricane - Google Video

Andy in West Oz · 31-01-2007, 10:34 PM

Here's some cool sites on Hurri restorations including Hawker Restorations who have returned a few to flying condition among other types. The Maltese series of pics is amazing. Love the Hurri, led the way for the Spitfire in many theatres - Burma, Malta, North Africa. Like the P-40, outclassed in many respects but made up for it and was quite adaptable. One of the legends!

Artifact Restoration - Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIc

Welcome to Hawker Restorations Ltd Web Site : Restorers of World War 2 aircraft specialising in the Hawker Hurricane

Restoration of Hurricane MkIIA - Z3055

The Real Aeroplane Company

NZFPM |Hawker Hurricane P3351

Cheers

Andy

von Poop · 31-01-2007, 11:26 PM

Those restoration people are astonishing aren't they, I could sit and watch them doing their thing at Duxford all day, nearly as good as watching the fruits of their labours roar over at treetop height.

Tried looking it up, no joy. So why did they fit a 'slip' wing, & why is it called a slip wing? Extra lift? Carriers? why?

Cheers,
Adam

Andy in West Oz · 31-01-2007, 11:45 PM

I've read about it before (don't ask me where, probably when I used to get FlyPast) and my immediate answer is extra range although I imagine the extra lift would have helped for shorter take-offs so...

Cheers

Andy

von Poop · 31-01-2007, 11:52 PM

Cheers Andy, just found this:
http://www.raf662.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-18653.html
Seems it was for overloaded takeoffs, and then the wing was jettisoned in flight! (though that wasn't tested in this case... not surprised, sounds terrifying.)
You live and learn.

Kyt · 31-01-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Poop

Tried looking it up, no joy. So why did they fit a 'slip' wing, & why is it called a slip wing? Extra lift? Carriers? why?

Cheers,
Adam

A number of sites seem to agree that it was to aid short-take off, but they don't seem to agree as to whether the top wing also carried extra fuel for range, or was ditched straight after take off.

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Feldgrau.net :: View topic - Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

I don't think that it's for carrier operations as the Sea Hurricane already existed. The fact that the project wasn't scrapped until January 1944 means that the only viable theatre of operations that would require short take off and/or range would be Burma.

At that time, fighter support was a problem because viable airfields were too far behind, and cutting new airfields was harder due to the geography, and lack of mechanical equipment.

Kyt · 01-02-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Poop

Cheers Andy, just found this:
http://www.raf662.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-18653.html
Seems it was for overloaded takeoffs, and then the wing was jettisoned in flight! (though that wasn't tested in this case... not surprised, sounds terrifying.)
You live and learn.

I'm not convinced with the overloaded takeoffs theory.

von Poop · 01-02-2007, 12:02 AM

So that's two firm forumites standing up for extra lift on takeoff, love that other slipwing thing on Feldgrau.

Edit: Whoops, cross-posted with above, both those blokes seem pretty certain... could of course be the same bloke though...

'nother link: Hillson Bi-mono.

Kyt · 01-02-2007, 12:05 AM

Looks ungainly without the upper wing - and imagine being the first pilot to be told to lose the wing before combat

Kyt · 01-02-2007, 12:09 AM

another view

31-01-2007, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,245	Hurricane variants Following on from the discussion on the Spitfire v Hurricane, I noticed that there's never been a proper discussion on the Hurricane alone. So, here are some links (I've only included some of the more interesting ones): The Hurricane Society The Hawker Hurricane Main Menu (This site has a great page on the different experimental types) K5083 - Hurricane Projects The most intriguing has to be <table align="center" border="0" cellspacing="6" height="107" width="75%"><tbody><tr><td height="31" valign="bottom" width="100%"> HILLS FH.40 <!-- #EndEditable --> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100%"> <!-- #BeginEditable "Picture 1" --><!-- #EndEditable --> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100%"> <!-- #BeginEditable "Picture text 1" --> <!-- #EndEditable --> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!-- #BeginEditable "Description" --> HILLS FH.40 - In continuation of work on Hillson Bi-Mono, F Hills and Sons obtained Air Ministry permission to fit a 'slip-wing' to a Hurricane I. Aircraft used was early Mk I, one of 20 transferred to Canada in 1939 and returned to UK in 1942 (originally L1884, but retaining RCAF serial 321 for 'slip-wing' trials). First taxi-trials and flights at RAF Sealand, May 25-28 1943; ferried to A & AEE September 15, 1943. Upper wing, of same span as lower, never slipped in flight. Hawker Sea Hurricane aircraft profile. Aircraft Database of the Fleet Air Arm Archive 1939-1945 The Hawker Hurricane - the forgotten star of the Battle of Britain. A list of preserved Hurricanes: Hurricane An excellent site for pictures: Aviation Photos: Hawker Hurricane/Sea Hurricane Great Pathe film on the Hurricane being tested against a captured Ju88: ww2 air war footage British hurricane - Google Video __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page) Last edited by Kyt; 31-01-2007 at 01:09 PM.

31-01-2007, 10:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 609	Here's some cool sites on Hurri restorations including Hawker Restorations who have returned a few to flying condition among other types. The Maltese series of pics is amazing. Love the Hurri, led the way for the Spitfire in many theatres - Burma, Malta, North Africa. Like the P-40, outclassed in many respects but made up for it and was quite adaptable. One of the legends! Artifact Restoration - Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIc Welcome to Hawker Restorations Ltd Web Site : Restorers of World War 2 aircraft specialising in the Hawker Hurricane Restoration of Hurricane MkIIA - Z3055 The Real Aeroplane Company NZFPM \|Hawker Hurricane P3351 Cheers Andy __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found Last edited by Andy in West Oz; 31-01-2007 at 10:37 PM.

31-01-2007, 11:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 609	I've read about it before (don't ask me where, probably when I used to get FlyPast) and my immediate answer is extra range although I imagine the extra lift would have helped for shorter take-offs so... Cheers Andy __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found

01-02-2007, 12:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
von Poop Adaministrator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Abbey of Thelema Posts: 8,596	So that's two firm forumites standing up for extra lift on takeoff, love that other slipwing thing on Feldgrau. Edit: Whoops, cross-posted with above, both those blokes seem pretty certain... could of course be the same bloke though... 'nother link: Hillson Bi-mono. Last edited by von Poop; 01-02-2007 at 12:05 AM.

01-02-2007, 12:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,245	Looks ungainly without the upper wing - and imagine being the first pilot to be told to lose the wing before combat __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page)

31-01-2007, 11:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
von Poop Adaministrator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Abbey of Thelema Posts: 8,596	Those restoration people are astonishing aren't they, I could sit and watch them doing their thing at Duxford all day, nearly as good as watching the fruits of their labours roar over at treetop height. Tried looking it up, no joy. So why did they fit a 'slip' wing, & why is it called a slip wing? Extra lift? Carriers? why? Cheers, Adam

31-01-2007, 11:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
von Poop Adaministrator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Abbey of Thelema Posts: 8,596	Cheers Andy, just found this: http://www.raf662.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-18653.html Seems it was for overloaded takeoffs, and then the wing was jettisoned in flight! (though that wasn't tested in this case... not surprised, sounds terrifying.) You live and learn.

01-02-2007, 12:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Kyt Very Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,245	another view __________________ _______________________________________ Squadron Leader Pujji - Audio Interviews (half way down the page) Last edited by Kyt; 01-02-2007 at 12:24 AM.

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