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| The Women of WW2 From combatant in the Red Army to Nurses and Munitions Workers. Women had countless roles in the war, this is the place to discuss them. |
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![]() | Women Medical Orderlies on the Eastern Front It is not only the women soldiers/pilots of the Soviet Union who deserve a mntion, but also the nurses, operating in battle conditions, and risking their lives, often beyond the call of duty, in order to save the lives of the Red Army soldiers. This is the little I have discovered (you really have to search for some of it!) From an article in TIME magazine, Oct 5th 1942: written by Author Konstantin Simonov, published in Moscow's Krasnaya Zvezda and cabled to TIME by its Moscow Correspondent Walter Graebner. Quote:
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All in all, "Medical personnel made a great contribution to the victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War against Nazi Germany. Millions of injured men and officers recieved medical aid at battlefields, in field medical points, field and evacuation hospitals. 18 million cured men and officers, that is, over 150 divisions returned to the army and continued to fight against Nazis." Incidentally, the Wehrmacht wounded had it worse as the battle progressed; injuries were compounded by frost bite, inadequate winter clothing, lice, typhus and starvation to name a few. The memoirs of Dr. Hans Dibold, describe working in the underground Timoshenko Bunker as incomprehensible: Quote:
Amazon.com: Doctor at Stalingrad: Hans Dibold: Books FROM STALINGRAD'S RUINS - TIME The Voice of Russia (The Stalingrad battle - 60 years) Some photos attached below.
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![]() | "Shabby" would never forgive me if I dont drop this in....sorry...just for balance,the vast majority of medics in the RKKA were infact blokes. I only point this out because as Eastfront subjects are becoming more "popular" there has been a tendancy to rather over egg some aspects,from experiances in an RKKA living history group the most commenly asked question at times would be," why are you portraying a medic,your a bloke?" ,well,that and " your a medic,your not allowed to carry that machine gun(sic) (Ppsh) are you." . ![]()
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![]() | Yeah, I can see your point, CW quite right too!Just choosing to focus on the women here! ![]()
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![]() | Quite right too Zoya! Keep up the good work,maybe surprise a few blokes eh? One more point though,Have you noticed the unusualy high proportion of "head wounds" being bandaged in the Soviet photos? mmmm,no posed ,after the action recreations going on there is there .... ![]()
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![]() I think photos no 1 & 4 are real, but the rest (apart form the memorial statue) are most certainly propoganda photos! But you try finding photos of medics in action! I've spent virtually a whole day this week doing ever more ridiculously-named Google image searches! I do come across Russian sites now and again, with lists of archive photos. but not being able to read the language is a bit of a hindrance! The only way to find them would be to individually click on every link, and then I'd be sat here for ever! (All this internet trawling don't half give me a numb bum!) ![]() Any way, found some more interesting stuff about my namesake, Zoya, yesterday...but that's for another thread ![]()
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![]() ![]() | I've always wondered about the life of Medics on the Eastern Front given that the terms of the Geneva convention werent adhered to and given the Germans attitude towards the Russians. I'm sure that it was a difficult assignment indeed.
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![]() | Basicaly,from what I can gather medics were not officially armed,at least at first,but,as you say,it was the eastern front,no niceties so Ppsh's were liberaly distributed .
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![]() | SHE DEFENDED HER MOTHERLAND ![]() By Olga Troshina Six decades have passed since the Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany in the Great Patriotic War. That war, which lasted four long years – from June 1941 to May 1945 – was the bloodiest in the history of mankind. In those harsh times those who rose to defend their Motherland included many women, who demonstrated unprecedented courage fighting at the frontlines and stood out against the ordeals life had in store for them. “In the early days of the war everyone, and residents of Moscow too, were so patriotic,” says a war veteran Anna Kuzmina. “They couldn’t wait to get to the fronts to defend their Motherland.” A well-known Soviet wartime poetess Yulia Drunina wrote about herself: “I stepped from my childhood… to leave for a medical platoon.” Anna Kuzmina’s case was a similar one. She left for the front in July 1941, when she was just sixteen years old. She went straight into the hell of the war, having covered the path from Moscow to Koenigsberg as a medical instructor. A few years before the war broke out Anna Kuzmina did a training course to be a nurse – she knew that this profession would soon become a must for her. “That was in 1938, and the situation was a critical one,” Anna Kuzmina recalls. “Everyone felt that a war with Hitler was imminent. There were thirty-six of us, girls, all from the same school, who signed up for a nurse training course and finished it eighteen months later.” And the nursing skills did come in handy. The war against Nazi Germany began for the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. On that tragic day Anna came home from her friend’s place and found her mum in tears. “Anything wrong?” she asked. “Yes”, her mum replied. “The war has started.” Anna’s first reaction was as clear as day. She’ll fight the enemy at the frontlines. She could think of nothing else. In the local registration and enlistment office, where she came together with other girls, Anna was reassured that she would be sent to the front. She only had to wait a little, she was told. So, she waited impatiently, avidly listening to every single news bulletin from the fronts. And the news was disconcerting at first, to say the least. Her heart ached as she listened to it....... Read the rest of her amazing story here: ROAD TO VICTORY [THE VOICE OF RUSSIA]
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![]() ![]() | Great post Zoya. I remember reading about the fighting around Vyazma. some of the fiercest of 1941.
__________________ "The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse." - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino) |
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