Russian WW2 sub found.

Peter Clare · 04-07-2007, 05:38 PM

IOL: WW2 Soviet sub found off Sweden's coast

Andy in West Oz · 05-07-2007, 01:15 AM

Very cool.

morse1001 · 05-07-2007, 01:56 PM

they should salvage it

adrian roberts · 06-07-2007, 01:56 AM

Any idea of the identity of the Finnish submarine? Where would they have got it from? Battleships-cruisers.com doesn't mention the Finnish Navy so it must have been pretty small.
Judging by some of the other news stories next to that article ("Baby born with four legs" etc) I wonder if its worth taking this story with a slight pinch of salt?

Kyt · 06-07-2007, 02:06 AM

Finnish Navy in World War II - Title page
(submarines)

Quote:

5 November (1942) Vetehinen sinks Soviet Shtsh 305 at Gisslan by ramming.

adrian roberts · 07-07-2007, 02:33 AM

So the Finns did build their own submarines then.
I suppose these days they build cruise-liners and in fact have a more active shipbuilding industry than we do, so it not surprising that they have a long tradition of this.

Peter Clare · 07-07-2007, 11:26 AM

In 1940 the Finnish Navy had five submarines, of which four were capable of laying mines, an important activity in the Baltic where they operated. At the end of the war they were all still in service, but were scrapped in accordance with the terms of the peace treaty.

Finnish submarines were the product of German designers and Finnish shipyards. They were direct descendants of the German UB.II and UB.III of WW1.

An interesting submarine was the Saukko a small coastal boat built to German designs, she could be dismantled into two sections for transporting to Lake Ladoga, then on Finland's eastern boundary.

Gibbo · 07-07-2007, 02:50 PM

The WW2 Finnish submarine Vesikko, built in Germany, is preserved & open to the public at Suomenlinna, which is a fortress built on a series of islands off Helsinki. It was constructed by the Swedes in the 18th century; they called it Sveaborg & its defences were compared to those of Gibraltar. There are a number of museums, several but not all of them military & it's easily reached by boat from Helsinki. It's a nice place so a lot of the visitors are there for the scenery rather than the museums. There's also a permanent population & a Finnish Navy base.

Suomenlinna

04-07-2007, 05:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Peter Clare Legendary Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Neverland Posts: 5,546	Russian WW2 sub found. IOL: WW2 Soviet sub found off Sweden's coast __________________ On weald of Kent I watched once more Again I heard that grumbling roar Of fighter planes; yet none were near And all around the sky was clear Borne on the wind a whisper came 'Though men grow old, they stay the same' And then I knew, unseen to eye The ageless Few were sweeping by

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Andy in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: House of Bedfords, Perth, Western Australia Posts: 760	Very cool. __________________ Cheers Andy Apres moi le deluge But there are deeds that should not pass away....And names that must not wither - Byron HMAS Sydney II - lost with all hands and waiting to be found

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morse1001 Very Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland Posts: 4,585	they should salvage it __________________ WWW.WARFARETODAY.com

06-07-2007, 01:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
adrian roberts Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NW Kent, England Posts: 758	Any idea of the identity of the Finnish submarine? Where would they have got it from? Battleships-cruisers.com doesn't mention the Finnish Navy so it must have been pretty small. Judging by some of the other news stories next to that article ("Baby born with four legs" etc) I wonder if its worth taking this story with a slight pinch of salt? __________________ for heathen heart that puts its trust in reeking tube and iron shard all valiant dust that builds on dust and guarding, calls not thee to guard thy mercy on thy people, Lord (Kipling)

07-07-2007, 02:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
adrian roberts Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NW Kent, England Posts: 758	So the Finns did build their own submarines then. I suppose these days they build cruise-liners and in fact have a more active shipbuilding industry than we do, so it not surprising that they have a long tradition of this. __________________ for heathen heart that puts its trust in reeking tube and iron shard all valiant dust that builds on dust and guarding, calls not thee to guard thy mercy on thy people, Lord (Kipling)

07-07-2007, 11:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Peter Clare Legendary Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Neverland Posts: 5,546	In 1940 the Finnish Navy had five submarines, of which four were capable of laying mines, an important activity in the Baltic where they operated. At the end of the war they were all still in service, but were scrapped in accordance with the terms of the peace treaty. Finnish submarines were the product of German designers and Finnish shipyards. They were direct descendants of the German UB.II and UB.III of WW1. An interesting submarine was the Saukko a small coastal boat built to German designs, she could be dismantled into two sections for transporting to Lake Ladoga, then on Finland's eastern boundary. __________________ On weald of Kent I watched once more Again I heard that grumbling roar Of fighter planes; yet none were near And all around the sky was clear Borne on the wind a whisper came 'Though men grow old, they stay the same' And then I knew, unseen to eye The ageless Few were sweeping by

07-07-2007, 02:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gibbo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 320	The WW2 Finnish submarine Vesikko, built in Germany, is preserved & open to the public at Suomenlinna, which is a fortress built on a series of islands off Helsinki. It was constructed by the Swedes in the 18th century; they called it Sveaborg & its defences were compared to those of Gibraltar. There are a number of museums, several but not all of them military & it's easily reached by boat from Helsinki. It's a nice place so a lot of the visitors are there for the scenery rather than the museums. There's also a permanent population & a Finnish Navy base. Suomenlinna __________________ Martin

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