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Old 26-11-2007, 06:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So there is monday morning in Russia and I'll continue. First of all I should correct myself and say that I can only help with a tour in my province, however I'd also would like visit those museums outside my home province with anyone interested in it, is it foreigner or not . And also like most of you I have main job (no children yet ) so I can't just stand up and go to wich location I want

Owen_D u'r the man 3 children it's great. In our province if u'll get a 3 children u can get a state support like a medium size house or apartments for a small charge - that is because of poor birth rate in Russia (that in fact increased from very low values of late 90's). So this is offtopic anyway . But when children grow up u can visit us .

Von Poop, as i googled russian internet there are no non-cyrillic sites (or may be i have poor skills in google arts) where u can get good information, pictures and description of pictures in english. Now I can't clearly realize how can I help with getting information from cyrillic sites .. I u have any suggestions - pls say it I can help with translations and such stuff

Slipdigit, ok, I can provide some test pictures to get ur opinion is it interesting or not if it is then I can make more of them

Paul Reed, IMHO to visit Russia u shouldn't be Jason Bourne or such man You should obtain a visa (it can be done in Russian embassy in ur country), bye tickets to Moscow and find someone here in Russia to guide u This is my non-professional point of view. This algorithm may have some invisible problems Offcourse you should find guide before ur visit to country (I think this rule works for all countries).

PS: more about museum-diorama in my town
* this is buidling of museum:

* this is a part of curtain that shows a snapshot () of battlefield:

* this is an alley that ways to diorama with bust of native soldiers died at Afghanistan war:

* this is a part of an exposition inside museum:

* this is an expositions of soviet tanks etc. near museum:

* this is museum at night of Day of Victory (May 9) decorated with flags:


pls don't judge very strong this pictures - i found them in russian internet, unfortunately there no larger pictures of our museum
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Old 26-11-2007, 06:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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WWII too far back? maybe you would rather be driving one of THESE!
Hehe u can be amazed that in past I have drived BMP-1 - analog of USA's M1 Bradley its very amazing to drive that IFV ) but don't think that anyone in Russia can hold an AK and drive tank
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Old 26-11-2007, 09:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I love looking at pictures from behind the old Iron Curtain.
Thanks for these.
If you haven't seen them there are some Then & Now photos on my Budapest thread. <<

I also like the idea of getting a bigger house with a bigger family. It would be cheaper than buying bigger house in England.
When did you drive the BMP-1 ? Were you in Russian Army?

Visiting your area is it easy to follow the battles using WW2 maps and finding the actual places on the ground today.
Has the landscape changed much?
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Wink Landscape is changed everywhere, afaik :)

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I love looking at pictures from behind the old Iron Curtain.
Thanks for these.
If you haven't seen them there are some Then & Now photos on my Budapest thread. <<

I also like the idea of getting a bigger house with a bigger family. It would be cheaper than buying bigger house in England.
When did you drive the BMP-1 ? Were you in Russian Army?

Visiting your area is it easy to follow the battles using WW2 maps and finding the actual places on the ground today.
Has the landscape changed much?
Ok, i've bookmarked ur topic
I was in army partially (hehe ) - i don't know is there analog in western countries, but here in university or institute u can attend a military department (if its exist in university), after 2 years u get lieutenant and contract with army for 2 years. After graduating university there is a chance to go to army around 50% . Anyway at the end of military deparment graduation every students goes to training assembly at nearest military fort for 2 weeks where they shooting from every infantry arms (o yeah Dragunov is amazing thing), driving IFV etc. After this u swear an oath an get a lieutenant. So after university u got 2 graduations - civilian and military But percent of students with this military graduation is low - not everyone wants to go to army after unversity. however this is an offtopic.

Yes, as far as i know, landscapes everywhere changed, because mainly soviet government have tried to erase trails of bloody fights, arranging museums and memorials at places of hard fights. U need modern maps
However, mostly, using old WW2 maps, u can find what u want but it will be very hard
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If everyone is interesting, few days earlier before I registered at this forum i've found following book in electronic form:
Soviet Rifleman 1941-45

Gordon L Rottman, "Soviet Rifleman 1941-45" (Warrior 123) "Illustrator: Howard Gerrard"
Osprey Publishing 2007 | 64 pages | ISBN: 9781846031274 | PDF | 9.6 MB

The Soviet rifleman, or Frontovik, initially suffered defeats and retreat during the early desperate days of the war, then resolved a stubborn defence during the brutal winter of 1941-42, eventually turning the tables at the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk, before victoriously marching into Germany. This title provides a view of the Soviet rifleman in defeat and victory, on the defensive and in the attack both in the heat of the summer, and the frozen brutality of the Russian winter. Their political beliefs, motivation, training, everyday life, weaponry and equipment are examined here, accompanied by rare photographs and full-color artwork.

if this is not violating forum rules i can provide a download link

And I must notice that Frontovik its not a correct word for soviet rifleman ) This word - Frontovik - mainly used in peaceful time (after WWII's end) to describe person who was at fronts of Russia. So Frontovik is like veteran. This is not a military term
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Old 26-11-2007, 10:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No offence mate but it's probably best if you don't provide a direct link.
People can find it themselves if they so desire without us annoying Osprey.

So what do you rate as the best Russian Language websites on ww2 battlefields?

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if this is not violating forum rules i can provide a download link
I did a Google and found it too.
The Download is not free so I'd rather buy the book at the bookshop.
We've reviewed several books on the Eastern Front, some Western books on the Red Army have upset Russian members of this forum before.
There are a few in this Forum.
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/books-movies/
Maybe you could give your views on any book from the West you may have seen.
This one seems to be hated in Russia.
Ivan's War, by Catherine Merridale

Discussed here,

http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/books-m...merridale.html

EDIT A review of that book with some pictures here.
Soviet Rifleman 1941-45 - Military Modelling Kits

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No offence mate but it's probably best if you don't provide a direct link.
People can find it themselves if they so desire without us annoying Osprey.

So what do you rate as the best Russian Language websites on ww2 battlefields?

Cheers,
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I get it If anyone interested about book - write to my PM .

Websites on russian language.. Hmm, good question. Because there is no such portal that will provide any kind information of WWII on Russian and then eastern front. Some of them provides only that part of information, some only those I don't know do u know them or no, but there is a number of good sites: BattleFront.ru - история Великой Отечественной войны, ВЕЛИКАЯ ВОЙНА - Великая Отечественная война 1941-45 годов, Великая Отечественная война. Фотографии (this site have interface on english also), Раритеты фотохроники СССР. Великая Отечественная война (site with soviet foto raritties, if u haven't seen them already go there and see), Великая Отечественная Война 1941-1945 гг. and ПОБЕДИТЕЛИ - Солдаты Великой Войны. Last site is a multimedia map of war fronts made in Macromedia Flash 7 with comments of veterans on it, u can download map to u computer to save traffic

Thats a short answer to ur question Hope u'll be satisfied with links I provided.
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I like this one here.
Pity the English translation is under construction.
Великая Отечественная война. Фотографии / 1941 год



We were told in Weapons Training, never point a gun at anyone let alone Anti-tank rifles!

I like this one of Soviet Generals with their train set.
Великая Отечественная война. Фотографии / 1945 год



Good site, deadb_tch, Thanks.

Большое спасибо

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