My Ardennes Trip, February 2008 - Page 4

CROONAERT · 25-02-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Owen D

You are right, your body shape has changed somewhat since that photo was taken.

There is a sign now asking not to climb on the King Tiger.

Cheeky b***ard! I haven't changed all that much!!! (Well,err...maybe a little)

There was probably a similar sign back then too, but it didn't mention anything about climbing in it!

Dave.

deadb_tch · 25-02-2008, 08:26 PM

Great shots, Owen, thnx!!

Slipdigit · 26-02-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Owen D

Wednesday we went to Germany for lunch, to Prüm.
I'm sure there must be a WW2 connection there.

Off the top of my head, the 22nd IR of the 4th ID fought their way through there in late December 44 or early January 45.

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Originally Posted by Owen D

Friday we went to Vielsalm a few Kms south of Trois Ponts.
Saw this memorial to Paulin Moxhet who was sent to Buchenwald.
I wonder who they were?

I searched and found a several foreign language sites, mostly Dutch. All they said was his name, he was sent to Buchenwald and a date. Was the the street also named Paulin Moxhet? I found one of those.

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Originally Posted by Owen D

Last photos now, whilst in Vielsalm we were looking for both the bottle-bank and the Sherman. They were opposite eachother, as soon as I got my bottles out a "odd" Belgium chap came up and asked us for our empties then proceeded to "fish" for empties in the bottlebank. Whether he was a home-brewer or wanted the deposits on the bottles I dunno. You can see him behind our car in one of the photos looking into the bottle-bank.

Edit---Pay no attention to the ignorant sentence below. Tanks? Those are big metal things that hold liquids, right?
>>>This was a Firefly. I guess the people who honored the men used what they could find, even if it wasn't US inventory<<<

Owen, thanks for posting the pics. I especially appreciate the pics of where the 291st stood their ground. I would guess that Brian can appreciate what these engineers did.

Owen · 26-02-2008, 12:39 AM

Jeff
That ain't no Firefly, it's one of yours.
M4A1 with a 76mm, I think.

von Poop · 26-02-2008, 12:39 AM

Don't think it's a Firefly Jeff, still seems to have the Hull machine gun position and the muzzle brake is likely from a 76 or German.

Edit:

cross-posted with the above.

Anoraks of the world...

Owen · 26-02-2008, 12:44 AM

Combat HQ - Articles
M4A1(76)W.

Slipdigit · 26-02-2008, 12:54 AM

I will accede to smarter guys. That long barrell made me think it was a Firefly. Was the Firefly even longer?

I added a brief edit to that post, be sure to read it.

Slipdigit · 26-02-2008, 05:50 AM

I went back and looked it up. The 22nd IR of the 4thID was figting over Prum in mid-February 45.

51highland · 26-02-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Owen D

Outside la Roche is this memorial to the dead of the 51st (Highland) Infantry Division.
I think Richard (51st Highland) may have posted photos of this before.

Was there in 1994 when they were surrounded by "Jock" veterans, sadly not very many of them left with us now.

Owen · 27-02-2008, 12:04 PM

Just thought I'd add some general views to give more of a feel of the area to those who haven't been there yet.
This is the bridge at Stavelot , viewed from the half-track.

This is a view of the house we stayed in.

View from backdoor on two different days.

Then these two are somewhere between Malmedy, Stavelot & Trois Ponts, can't remember where excactly.
Bit blurred, taken from the car on way back from Germany, week ago today, ho-hum.

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26-02-2008, 12:39 AM	#35 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 8,473	Don't think it's a Firefly Jeff, still seems to have the Hull machine gun position and the muzzle brake is likely from a 76 or German. Edit: cross-posted with the above. Anoraks of the world... __________________ It's only the Internet.

26-02-2008, 12:54 AM	#37 (permalink)
Slipdigit The Dixie Division Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Not far enough in the woods Posts: 1,630	I will accede to smarter guys. That long barrell made me think it was a Firefly. Was the Firefly even longer? I added a brief edit to that post, be sure to read it. __________________ Warmest Regards, Jeff The Bonnie Blue Flag * Last edited by Slipdigit; 26-02-2008 at 03:28 PM.

26-02-2008, 05:50 AM	#38 (permalink)
Slipdigit The Dixie Division Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Not far enough in the woods Posts: 1,630	I went back and looked it up. The 22nd IR of the 4thID was figting over Prum in mid-February 45. __________________ Warmest Regards, Jeff The Bonnie Blue Flag *

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26-02-2008, 12:39 AM	#34 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,464	Jeff That ain't no Firefly, it's one of yours. M4A1 with a 76mm, I think.

26-02-2008, 12:44 AM	#36 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,464	Combat HQ - Articles M4A1(76)W.

27-02-2008, 12:04 PM	#40 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 9,464	Just thought I'd add some general views to give more of a feel of the area to those who haven't been there yet. This is the bridge at Stavelot , viewed from the half-track. This is a view of the house we stayed in. View from backdoor on two different days. Then these two are somewhere between Malmedy, Stavelot & Trois Ponts, can't remember where excactly. Bit blurred, taken from the car on way back from Germany, week ago today, ho-hum.

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