My Ardennes Trip, February 2008

Owen · 23-02-2008, 10:37 PM

Just got back today from a week at Trois Ponts , Belgium.
Have many photos to post but it's getting late and it's been a long day travelling back so I'll just post these of the La Gleize King Tiger for now.
Went to see it on the Sunday when the Museum was open.
Later in the week I accidentally deleted the front view I took so had to pop back and retake some more.
It was the only wet day we had that's why some photos are in sunshine others in drizzle.

von Poop · 23-02-2008, 10:47 PM

Very nice shots mate, looks in good order at the moment.
Wonder if thos front gouges are from the Bazooka practice it was used for?

Paul Reed · 23-02-2008, 10:54 PM

Good photos Owen - La Gleize is one of my favourite places in the Ardennes.

Slipdigit · 23-02-2008, 11:58 PM

jealous jealous jealous. But I like the pics...get us more when you can.

mollusc · 24-02-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Von Poop

Very nice shots mate, looks in good order at the moment.
Wonder if thos front gouges are from the Bazooka practice it was used for?

Shots all all AP Von Poop - they are nice scoops and show deflection - hollow charge would not. IT was another KT that was used for target practice.

Martin Bull · 24-02-2008, 12:01 PM

Thanks for posting the pics, Owen. I've visited La Gleize many times over the years and it's good to see the King Tiger preserved on its original battlefield.

( Incidentally, the story goes that the Tiger 'cost' the village a bottle of cognac - which must be the militaria bargain of all time and a great investment in view of the numbers of battlefield tourists who visit every year

)

Owen · 24-02-2008, 12:27 PM

Here are some from Trois Ponts, memorials to the Us Army that fought there, the Belguim civilians killed there , a few "Then & Nows" from 1940, from ATB Blitzkrieg In The West and a GMC that was outside the supermarket on Friday.
Read about the 51st Engineers here.
http://www.usace.army.mil/publicatio...1-38/basic.pdf

Owen · 24-02-2008, 12:31 PM

As for King Tiger read here.
Restoration of 213

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The frontal armor of 213 (in an earlier paint scheme). The solid shot lodged at the junction of the armor plates is approximately 75mm, but was probably fired from close range by a US tank crew after the battle to "see what they could do." None of the Shermans of TF McGeorge could have penetrated the Tiger's armor like this during the battle on 22 December.

Paul Reed · 24-02-2008, 01:26 PM

Excellent Then & Nows mate!

Gotthard Heinrici · 24-02-2008, 05:14 PM

fantastic pics mate. really well done. Great to see you back!

23-02-2008, 10:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 8,698	My Ardennes Trip, February 2008 Just got back today from a week at Trois Ponts , Belgium. Have many photos to post but it's getting late and it's been a long day travelling back so I'll just post these of the La Gleize King Tiger for now. Went to see it on the Sunday when the Museum was open. Later in the week I accidentally deleted the front view I took so had to pop back and retake some more. It was the only wet day we had that's why some photos are in sunshine others in drizzle.

23-02-2008, 10:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
von Poop I Like Tanks. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perfidious Albion. Posts: 7,687	Very nice shots mate, looks in good order at the moment. Wonder if thos front gouges are from the Bazooka practice it was used for? __________________ It's only the Internet.

23-02-2008, 10:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Reed Ubique Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK/France Posts: 2,861	Good photos Owen - La Gleize is one of my favourite places in the Ardennes. __________________ The WW2 Society: Remembering those from Britain & The Commonwealth who served 1939-45 - http://www.battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/ww2_society.htm

23-02-2008, 11:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Slipdigit The Dixie Division Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Not far enough in the woods Posts: 1,609	jealous jealous jealous. But I like the pics...get us more when you can. __________________ Warmest Regards, Jeff The Bonnie Blue Flag *

24-02-2008, 12:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Owen Top Moose Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Under the stairs Posts: 8,698	Trois Ponts views Here are some from Trois Ponts, memorials to the Us Army that fought there, the Belguim civilians killed there , a few "Then & Nows" from 1940, from ATB Blitzkrieg In The West and a GMC that was outside the supermarket on Friday. Read about the 51st Engineers here. http://www.usace.army.mil/publicatio...1-38/basic.pdf

24-02-2008, 12:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Martin Bull Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London Posts: 50	Thanks for posting the pics, Owen. I've visited La Gleize many times over the years and it's good to see the King Tiger preserved on its original battlefield. ( Incidentally, the story goes that the Tiger 'cost' the village a bottle of cognac - which must be the militaria bargain of all time and a great investment in view of the numbers of battlefield tourists who visit every year )

24-02-2008, 01:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Paul Reed Ubique Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK/France Posts: 2,861	Excellent Then & Nows mate! __________________ The WW2 Society: Remembering those from Britain & The Commonwealth who served 1939-45 - http://www.battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/ww2_society.htm

24-02-2008, 05:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gotthard Heinrici Ostfront is where its at! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,497	fantastic pics mate. really well done. Great to see you back! __________________ *"The Eastern front is like a house of cards. If the front is broken through at one point all the rest will collapse."* - General Heinz Guderian "With amazement and disappointment, we discovered in late October and early November that the beaten Russians seemed quite unaware that as a military force they had almost ceased to exist." - General Blumentritt "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen me fight so hard." Lieutenant General Wilhelm Bittrich - Commander of II SS Panzer Korps - (Commenting on the British Paratroopers at Arnhem) - September 1944 "Had Clark given more heed to Juin's views...the savage battles of Cassino would probably never have been fought and the venerable house of St Benedict would have been unscathed" Rudolf Böhmler - 1st Fallschirmjäger Division - 1944 (After the bombing of Monte Cassino)

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