War Museums

[Marco]

Arnhem:
The KNIL museum Bronbeek mainly shows Dutch east Indies stuff, which could be something new for you foreign chaps . It's not great, but different. Enhanced by the fact that it is housed in the Dutch version of Chelsea hospital. So lot's of veterans and that hospital lysol smell. I was there in 1991.

An other museum in Arnhem is Museum 1940-1945. Much bigger then Hartestein but not much advertised. I was told that the main reason for this is that they were treatened by Arnhem city council that they would not allow it to become a serious competator for Hartenstein. Not an idle threat because Dutch gunlaw is very strict even on deactivated or 1:1 model weapons. No licence no museum. I was there in 1995. Curious to know which one you will find better, this one or Hartenstein.

A pleasant surprise was Musée Historique Diekirch. I was expecting a barn with some Garands on display but found a top-notch museum with several full-sized dioramas. Very good. I was there 1991.

Also VERY good was Musee de l’Emperi (Salon de Provence) 2003. Although plenty of ww1 and some ww2 on display the best part was the vast collection of Napoleonic uniforms.

With hundreds of museums in Holland, Belgium, France and UK visited its probably more do-able to name the ones I found not to my personal taste:
-Zuidhollands Verzetsmuseum (Gouda) 1990
-Museum Bezetting en Bevrijding (Breda) 1990
-Generaal Maczek museum (Breda) 1990
-Musée de la Marine (Paris) 1991
-Museé de la Réistance et de la Deportation Henri Chadourne (Limoges) 1996
-Musee Maritime (La Rochelle) 2003
-Musee de la Legion Etrangere (Aubagne) 2003 because photography was forbidden. I hate that.

Regards,

Marco

[walker1914]

Colditz Castle was very interesting when i was there about 18 months ago, due to building work there, conversion of parts of the castle in to flats <_< , we only had limited access, unable to go into the courtyard etc, but you can still feel the atmosphere of the place, and how foreboding it must have been to the prisoners there

[Steven Wright]

This is a great thread for all of the ideas! Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with European museums, but two wonderful places in England are the Imperial War Museum and the Cabinet War Rooms! Both are unmatched!

SJW

[David Seymour]

The Tank Museum at Bovington in Dorset has a splendid collection of AFVs. This year's 'Tankfest' is on Sunday 23 May.
David

[Paul Reed]

Originally posted by Marco@Mar 2 2004, 10:04 AM
An other museum in Arnhem is Museum 1940-1945. Much bigger then Hartestein but not much advertised. I was told that the main reason for this is that they were treatened by Arnhem city council that they would not allow it to become a serious competator for Hartenstein. Not an idle threat because Dutch gunlaw is very strict even on deactivated or 1:1 model weapons. No licence no museum. I was there in 1995. Curious to know which one you will find better, this one or Hartenstein.

I hear this is a good museum, but I ran out of time to see it last time I was at Arnhem. I can't see any reason why they cannot operate both museums together; afterall, they must be running out of space at the Hartenstein?

Marco, do you know what happened to Monsieur le Cocq's 'War Museum 1914-18 & 1939-45' (or whatever it was called) that was "somewhere near" Arnhem? I never saw it, but met him many times on the Somme... he was a native of St Pierre Divion.

[MalcolmII]

Originally posted by David Seymour@Mar 2 2004, 12:28 PM
The Tank Museum at Bovington in Dorset has a splendid collection of AFVs. This year's 'Tankfest' is on Sunday 23 May.
David

The Tank Museum at Saumur, Loire is also exceptional and worth a visit if you are in France.
Aye
MalcolmII

[Marco]

Paul,

Do you perhaps mean Museum slag van de Somme '14-'18 at Schagen? This was run by a local 'from Thiepval' which is close enough.... I don't know his name but he died not too long ago.

Regards,

Marco

[Marco]

What the heck is a 'flood control' on this forum?? Try posting two messages after each other and you see what I mean.

Anyway, Malcolm, don't tell me you visited Samaur in June 2003.....

Bovington was always #1 till I visited Samaur. Now I'm not that sure.... Almost complete set of German ww2 armour (well the lended their Tiger to some German museum in return for a Mk. I or II) but very complete. Bovington beats Saumur in British ww1 armour and Samaur beats Bovington in ww1 French armour but that is to be expected.

Regards,

Marco

[Marco]

What can I say? I like museums and I like lists (occupational defect). Below a list of museums I have been to so far. The list is not complete I now realise but it gives an idea. Its not all ‘on topic’ but I hope I am forgiven. If you have any questions regarding a museum...

Museum 1915-18 (Kotsach-Mauten)
Abri du Hitler (Bruly-de-Pershe)
Bastogne Historical Center
Citadel Dinant
Citadel Huy
Citadel Namen
Fort Eben-Emael
Musée d'Armes de Liege
Musée de la Bataille des Ardennes
Musée du Centenaire (Mons) MOVED
Museum van het kamp van Beverlo (Leopoldsburg)
Slag der Zilveren Helmen (Halen)
Streek museum Zonnebeke UNDER RENOVATION
Victory Memorial museum (Arlon) CLOSED
Herinnerings museum Yperes salient '14-'18
Oorlogsmuseum 1914-1918 Hooge Crater
1944/1945 Aywaille Battle museum
Sanctuary Wood Hill 62 (Zillebeke)
December 1944 museum (La Gleize)
IJzertoren (Diksmuide) 2003
Bitche Citadel
Calais Musée de la Guerre
Caverne du Dragon
Citadel Montmedy
Concentration camp Natzwiller (Le Struthof)
Fort de la Pompelle (Reims)
Frigat “l’Hermione” (Rochfort)
Historial de la Grand Guerre (Peronne)
La Copoule (St. Omer)
Lataille Museum (Bullecourt)
Le Blockhaus d'Eperlecques
Le Mémorial de la ligne Maginot (Marckolsheim)
Musée Amis de Thann
Musée Automobiles et Militaire (Cleres)
Musée Cooperation Francais - American
Musée d' Argonne (Verdun)
Musée d’Art et de Histoire (Belfort)
Musée de la Legion Etrangere (Aubagne)
Musée de la Marine (Parijs)
Musée de la Résistance et de la Deportation Henri Chadourne (Limoges)
Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace Le Bourget
Musée des Abris (Albert)
Musée des Spahis (Senlis)
Musée des Troupes Marine (Frejus)
Musée du l' Armee (Parijs)
Musée Henri Barbusse (Aumont)
Musée Historique Diekirch
Musée Liberation (Parijs)
Musée Maritime (La Rochelle)
Musée Militaire (Cambrai)
Musée Mur d'Atlantic
Musée de l’Emperi (Salon de Provence)
Musée des Blindes – Tank Museum (Saumur)
Oradour-sur-Glane
Ouvrage du Four a Chaux (Lembach)
Ouvrage du Schoenenbourg
Ouvrage du Simserhof
Fort Douaumont/ Vaux
Dome des Invalides (Paris)
Musée 39-45 (Ambleteuse)
Museum memorial de Verdun 1914-1918
Auto und Technik museum (Sinsheim)
Bundeswehr Technisches museum (Koblenz)
Concentration camp Dachau
Deutsches Museum (Munchen)
Fliegausstellung Junior (Hermeskeil)
SS Sonderlager KZ Hinzert
Technik museum Speyer
Airborne museum Hartenstein (Oosterbeek)
Anne Frank huis (Amsterdam)
Bevrijdende Vleugels (Veghel)
Bevrijdings museum Groesbeek
Biber Stellung (Oostvoorne)
Brabants Airborne museum (Best)
Festung Hoek van Holland
Fort aan den Hoek van Holland
Fries Verzets museum (Leeuwarden)
Generaal Maczek museum (Breda)
General George C. Marshall Museum (Zwijndrecht)
Grave Bridge Museum
Helders Marine museum (Den Helder)
Historische verzameling LUA materiaal (Ede)
Historische verzameling Regiment Aan- en afvoertroepen (Stroe)
Kamp Amersfoort
Kazematten Kornwerderzand
KNIL museum Bronbeek (Arnhem)
Leger en Wapen museum (Delft)
Mariniers museum (Rotterdam)
Militair Luchtvaart museum (Soesterberg)
Militaire traditie (Driebergen)
Museum Bezetting en Bevrijding (Breda)
Museum Grenadiers en Jagers (Arnhem)
Museum Nederlandse Cavalerie (Amersfoort)
Museum Schietkamp/Harskamp
Museum Verbindingsdienst (Ede)
Nederlands Infanteriemuseum (Harskamp)
Oorlog en Verzetsmuseum (Overloon)
Stelling bij Mill
Ten Boom Huis (Haarlem)
Verzets museum Amsterdam
Vesting Bourtange
Zuidhollands Verzetsmuseum (Gouda)
Linieschip (1782) ‘De Delft’ (Rotterdam)
VOC Schip (1749) ‘De Amsterdam’ (Amsterdam)
Linieschip (1664) ‘De Zeven Procinciën’ (Lelystad)
VOC Schip (1628) ‘De Batavia’ (Lelystad)
VOC verkenner (1595) ‘Duyfken’ (Rotterdam)
Museum Luchtoorlog 1939-1945 (Deelen)
Museum 1940-1945 (Arnhem)
Museum slag van de Somme '14-'18 (Schagen)
Artillerie museum 't Harde (dl. 1)
HM Bark “Endeavour” 1765
Oceaan Mijnveger HMS “Mercuur” 1944
Fort Charles (Kinsale)
Foynes Flying Boat Museum (Foynes)
Museo Alpini (Trento)
Collezione Giancarlo Rovini (Chiesa)
Forte di Oga/Venini (Oga)
Forte Strino
Museo dell’ Aeronautica Gianni CaProni (Trento)
Redipuglia Ossuarium
Sacario Militare di Pocol
Museo della Guerra (deel 1, Roverto)
Museo 1915-18 (Chiesa)
Patton museum (Ettelbruck)
Concentratiekamp Auswitz 1 & 2 (Birkenau)
‘For Crown and Country’ (Leith Hall)
Artillery museum (London)
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (Conningsby)
Battle of Britain museum (Londen)
Britain at War museum (London)
Buffs regimental museum (Canterbury)
Cabinet War Rooms (Londen)
Caernarfon Air museum
Chester Military museum
Crownhill Fort (Plymouth)
Culloden Battlefield
D-Day museum (Portsmouth)
Dover Castle
Duke of Wellington’s Regiment (West Riding) museum Halifax)
Durham Light Infantry museum (Durham)
Eastborne Redoubt & Royal Surrey Regimental museum
Eden Camp
Fleet Air Arm museum (Yeovilton)
Fort George (bij Inverness)
Gordon Highlanders museum (Aberdeen)
Green Howards museum (Richmond)
HMS Belfast (Londen)
Imperial War museum (Londen)
Imperial War Museum Duxford
Kent Battle of Britain museum (Folkstowe)
King’s Liverpool Regiment (Liverpool)
King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry museum Doncaster)
Leicestershire Regiment Gallery, New Walk museum (Leicester)
Light Infantry museum (Winchester)
Lincolnshire Aviation Heratige Centre (East Kirby)
Lincolnshire Regimental museum (Lincoln)
Maritime Museum Liverpool
Midland Air museum (Coventry)
Monmouthshire Yeomanry & South Wales Borders Regiment Mus. (Breqon)
Muckleburgh Collection (Weybourne)
Museum of Army Flying (Middle Wallop)
Museum of Army Transport (Beverley) CLOSED
Museum of Flight (East Fortune Airfield)
National Army museum (Londen)
Naval Heritage (Portsmouth)
Newark Air museum
Newhaven Fort & Sussex and Surrey Yeomanry Museum
Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation museum (Flixton)
Nothe Fort (Weymouth)
Para museum (Aldershot)
Pembrokeshire Yeomanry (Haverfordwest)
Queens Own Royal West Kent Regimental museum (Maidstone)
Queens Royal Lancers museum (Belvoir)
RAF museum Hendon (Londen)
Regiment mus. the Border Regiment & King's Own Royal Border Regiment (Carlisle)
Regiments of Gloucestershire museum (Gloucester)
Royal Armouries museum (Leeds)
Royal Marines museum (Portsmouth)
Royal Norfolk Regimental museum (Norwich)
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards museum (Edinburg)
Royal Welch Fusiliers Regimental museum (Caernarfon)
National War Memorial (Edinburgh)
Sherwood Foresters Regimental museum (Nottingham)
Shipwreck museum (Hastings)
Southampton Hall of Aviation
Staffordshire Regimental Museum (Lichfield)
Submarine museum (Gosport)
The Aerospace museum (Cosford)
The Black watch museum (Perth)
The Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry Mus. (Bodmin)
The Guards museum (Londen)
The Gurkha museum (Winchester)
The King’s Shilling, Inverness Castle (Inverness)
The museum of Artillery (Londen)
The Prince of Wales's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry Regiment mus. (York)
The Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment and Queens Regimental museum (Dover)
The Royal Scots museum (Edinburg)
The Royal Warwickshire Regimental museum (Warwick)
The Shropshire Regimental Museum (Shrewsbury)
The Shuttleworth Collection (Old Warden)
The York and Lancaster Regimental museum (Rotherham)
Tower of Londen
United Scots Services museum (Edinburg)
Warwickshire Yeomanry museum (Warwick)
Wellington Aviation museum (Morten-in-March)
Wellington museum (Londen)
Western Approaches Headquaters (Liverpool)
Worcester Town museum
Worcestershire Regimental museum (Worcester)
Worcestershire Yeomanry Calvalery museum
Yorkshire Air museum
U-534 (Birkenhead)
9th/12th Royal Lancers Regimental museum (Derby)
15th/19th The King’s Royal Hussars & Northumberland Hussars (Newcastle)
1st Queens Dragoon Guards museum (Cardiff)
The Tank museum (deel 1, Bovington Kamp)
Lima Sector Operations Room 12 Group RAF Fighter Command (RAF Digby)
Battle of Hastings 1066 (Battle)

[MalcolmII]

Gordon Bennett!!!!!

Aye
MalcolmII