It is maybe the case Edwina that wires have been crossed along the way. So what I would suggest is leave everything aside for the moment and concentrate on what you actually know for sure. Below is his RNVR record - it doesn't help with your WW2 search but for completeness I have attached. You will note he is shown as a Cook. You will sometimes see the term butcher and cook used but in essence he was in the catering dept aboard ship. Will get that reference for you Regards Hugh
Hi TD, No I think he may have emigrated though? The ULUA is a passenger ship and Robert Owen (est DoB 1891) is listed as a Master Butcher but his ethnicity is `IRISH`! To complicate things further on other lists there is another ROBERT OWEN born 1896! Kyle
ULUA / OCTANS 1917 "Built as a passenger ship for the United Fruit Co. by Workman Clarke & Co, Belfast, she was completed in 1917 and immediately requisitioned as a British troopship. She carried a total of 728 officers and 15,344 troops on military voyages and served primarily transporting men and materials from the USA and Canada to Britain, France and even Russia. An interesting contingent of passengers were Chinese railway workers sent to France to rebuild destroyed railway lines. She also helped to repatriate American troops from Europe and in 1919 was sent to Murmansk to return the Allied General Staff after the end of the British involvement in the Russian Civil War. After Oct.1919 she was reconditioned as a passenger ship, registered at Glasgow under the management of Clarke & Service and left Belfast in Apr.1920 under charter to the Anchor Line for New York where she started Caribbean voyages. Officially owned by Unifruitco (a British flagged subsidiary of United Fruit Co), she was transferred to the parent company, under the US flag in Feb.1929. Requisitioned by the US Navy in 1942 and renamed USS OCTANS until 1946 when she was returned to the War Shipping Administration. She was scrapped in 1947. Kyle
His CRS 10 - service record from Jan 1941 until leaving the service - should be held at TNA Kew in piece BT 382/1366. The file is held in block of up to 60 other names and as such TNA deem it as research to copy it and charge accordingly. So best obtained by a visit to Kew if that is in your gift. If not, there are a couple of guys on here that will copy the file for you at a very reasonable cost. You need to ask for the CRS 10 for Robert Owen, Discharge number 781099, born 1890, Hanley, Staffordshire. Let us know how you get on. Regards Hugh
Thank you all so much for your help in sorting out details and obtaining the above information for me. I am very grateful. I am visiting my daughter in London in 3 weeks time, for a short holiday. I will incorporate a visit to Kew at the same time and obtain his Service Record. I will definitely update you on my return and let you know how I got on. With my very kind regards to you all Edwina.
Hi wanted to get more information about my great grandad. His name is Thomas Arthur Martindale and was in the royal air force. He was a prisoner of war in Singapore. Thanks
Hi Norma, Perhaps if you ask one of the Mods they may be able to move your enquiry to its own thread? Better chance of people seeing it In the meanwhile is this him? MARTINDALE, THOMAS ARTHUR Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class Service No: 856147 Date of Death: 09/10/1945 Age: 36 Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force (Auxiliary Air Force) Grave Reference: 10. A. 11. Cemetery:Kranji Additional Information: Son of John Henry and Martha Ann Martindale, of Widnes, Lancashire; husband of Elizabeth Martindale. From the CWGC concentration he died on the 9th October was buried on the 10th October and finally reburied on the 20th April 1946 Kyle
Looks like him Kyle Aircftmn 1C Thomas Arthur Martindale ( - 1945) - Find A Grave Memorial Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current Name: Aircftmn 1C Thomas Arthur Martindale Death Date: 9 Oct 1945 Cemetery: Kranji War Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Kranji, North West, Singapore Has Bio?: N URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-... England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Thomas Arthur Martindale Death Date: 9 Oct 1945 Death Place: Lancashire, England Probate Date: 26 Jul 1946 Registry: Chester, England TD
Thank You so much that is enough information for me. I am made up with the additional names of my family as I did not no then. Thanks
I havent yet been able to trace more information on my late dad , Trever Smallman was able to trace some of the ciphers and sent those to me from his contact in Bern. My dad was an escaped POW too , there is a news article in which Tom Ortman describes their escape and I have some letters of my dads refering to that time. This last year has been a bit of a hit and miss.
Hi there - Bill Brennan here. Robert Owen (Fireman) was my grandfather - born in Wales. Lived for sometime in Newfoundland (where he married my Grandmother). He served with the Merchant Navy, was captured and died in POW camp in Kawasaki City, Japan 1943.
Hi there - Bill Brennan here. Robert Owen (Fireman) was my grandfather - born in Wales. Lived for sometime in Newfoundland (where he married my Grandmother). He served with the Merchant Navy, was captured and died in POW camp in Kawasaki City, Japan 1943.