Reproduction Firable Panzerfaust

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by JonathanW, May 23, 2020.

  1. JonathanW

    JonathanW Member

    Here’s my latest project where I legally build a Panzerfaust





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    I will try to collaborate with other organizations so we can safely and legally build a functional shape charge warhead
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Love it.
    Just what we need on the forum at the mo.
     
  3. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    I’m impressed , but surely a re-enactment forum would be better ?
     
  4. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    As a historical and technical point of view it very interesting to see how these perform, in accuracy recoil and distance and if the projectile can be followed to the target in case you missed etc. Theres some guy in Canada who has done the same thing with a PIAT, which is interesting to see what the recoil was like and how part of the propellant cartridge flys out the back and lands just as the original just in front of the firing position. I would like to see the American M1 bazooka perform with the correct rocket motor which is burnt out before its left the barrel and not some firework rocket shoved at the spout which leaves a smoke trail to the target which the original rocket didn't. It puts these weapons in perspective showing what soldiers of the past had endure using such equipment. It would be interesting to see what the Home Guard makeshift weapons performed like.
     
  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Think of it as reconstructive archaeology.

    As long as it doesn't become reconstructive surgery...

    Picking up on Topfmine's comment, it wasn't long before I started wondering when he'd tackle a spigot mortar.
     
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  6. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    That would be an interesting weapon to see perform, i bet that was a endurance for the crew to not only fire it but to lug it about and set it up. Unfortunately i don't live in the land of the free to try out such a project like our American friend Johnathanw has demonstrated with the Panzerfaust.
     
  7. JonathanW

    JonathanW Member

    to my knowledge the panzerfaust was supposed to have very limited recoil as all the excess pressure is shot out the rear. The projectiles I was using was hollow so the weight was considerably reduced. With that in mind I reduced the Blackpowder charge about by 20-50% to accommodate. I believe with the added weight and full powder charge, it would have been more realistic launch. Future tests will use a weighted warhead.
     

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  8. JonathanW

    JonathanW Member

    I did speak with the Canadian gentlemen who made the PIAT, Prig, and other anti tank weapons. Unfortunately after recent events in his country. Those items are now prohibited so there won’t be any updates. I hope to try pick up the mantle and try to bring these historical Tools back to life. I have several future designs in mind but will look at them after I finish the panzerfaust trigger mechanism
     
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  9. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    have some (29) HASAG construction sheets buried on my HD. It´s the late 150m variant , but otherwise YAP (yet another Panzerfaust)
    Perhaps of interest?
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  10. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Just a Gimmick
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  11. idler

    idler GeneralList

    That last drawing is interesting. How did the charge blow past the firing pin mechanism? Or was it ejected out the back as a counterweight for the projectile? Make it heavy enough and I assume you could reduce the charge and firing signature quite a bit, but you wouldn't want it to stick...
     
  12. JonathanW

    JonathanW Member

    Those are some quality draws that I have never come across. Thank you !
     
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  13. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Quite happy there´s someone who has proper need for them. Lying up on the HD they´re utterly needless.
    Part two: ballistic cap and hollow charge liner
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  14. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Part three: Warhead details
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  15. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Part four: aiming devices and firing pin
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  16. idler

    idler GeneralList

    That last drawing is interesting. How did the charge blow past the firing pin mechanism? Or was it ejected out the back as a counterweight for the projectile? Make it heavy enough and I assume you could reduce the charge and firing signature quite a bit, but you wouldn't want it to stick...
     
  17. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

  18. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Jonathan, if you ever build a 150m version I would be tremendously interested about any experiences with them. They never entered production lines.
    In the early 90´s only some warheads were recovered at at Leipzig Heiterblick, were HASAG maintained a trial shooting range.
    Firing tube was exactly the same as for the 60m ones, sole difference was aiming device and the warhead.
    The propelling charges consisted of black powder pellets who were intersected by carboard sheets. Will habe a look for the documents....must be somewhere deeply hidden.....
     
  19. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Separate charges sounds like an unnecessary point of failure. A misfire with a single charge wouldn't matter - tactical situation aside - but a misfire of one of two charges would be interesting...
     
  20. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Was a technique used on one of the prototypes for the Davis recoiless gun pre WW1 but was rejected in favour of a counterweight of lead pellets encased in wax.
     

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