Blade and Hart Forces

Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by Recce_Mitch, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Blade and Hart Forces

    I have been reading about these 2 forces and am curious about them.

    Cheers

    Paul
     
  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Blade and Hart forces were organised when the 1st Army was having trouble being understaffed in the initial advances into Tunisia - they were finally done away with when the 1st - 4th and 46th Divs came on the scene in the March of '43.....along with 21st and 25th Tank Bdes. ...you can read all about them in the History of 78th Division

    Cheers
     
  3. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Have only just started to read from Algiers to Austria which I just purchased thanks to Owen. Havn't got that far yet.

    Cheers

    Paul
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Do a forum search for 'hartforce' we've two threads that mention them.
     
  5. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Done. Some interesting info on Hartforce but nothing on Bladeforce. Thanks for the tip.

    Cheers

    Paul
     
  6. tropper66

    tropper66 Member

    Blade force was a unit made up from the 17/21st Lancers, an armoured car squadron from the Derbyshire Yeomanry,and a battery of 25pdrs from the 12th RHA, a troop of Bofer guns, a 6pdr anti tank battery, and one troop of REs.A company of lorry mounted infantry from 10th Rifle Brigade was also part of the unit. The unit was commanded by col Hull of the 17/21st. Once in Tunisia they where joined by the 1st armoured Regiment of the American !st armd div. Under command of col John Waters with 54 M3 Stuart light tanks

    See "The 17/21 Lancers 1759-1993" R V L ffrench Blake

    " An Army at Dawn" Rick Atkinson

    Also QRL on Utube
     
  7. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Blade was the taskforce that raided Luftwaffe airfields early in the campaign?
     
  8. tropper66

    tropper66 Member

    True, on November 25th near the village of Djedeida,company C of the US 1st Armoured shot up several dozen aircraft on the ground
     
  9. sol

    sol Very Senior Member

  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've just found this which mentions Blade Force.

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  11. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Lads, is (are) there a book/s centered on Blade Force, or at least, the early run for Tunis?

    Several unit stories mention the operation, but use 10 or 20 out of 300 pages; same happens with books covering the entire NW Africa campaign. Am looking for in-depth coverage.
     
  12. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

  13. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Already downloaded them, mate, but something on book format (you know, maps, tables, pictures, personal accounts) would be very desirable.

    Wonder why books on specific actions during the Tunisian Campaign are so scarce; everything beyond the rout at Kasserine comes in campaign format or does not amount to more than 20-so pages on a regimental story. Tom's lot deserves a better treatment!
     

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