Bren or BAR.

You beat me to it again.

Kirby and his squad played a big part in making me a little funny in the head about WWII. Great show and Jack Hogan is still active in the fan club. And as for being the smallest guy in the squad, he always punched above his weight. Here's Mrs "Kirby", Joyce Nizzari:

 

Big Attractive Rack

 

That's more of a shelf than a rack of beer, but I get the gist.
Nice to see a lady with matching collar and cuffs, though.

 

I loved the Bren
All aspects have been pretty much covered in thread.
I was told by a WW 2 Falschrimjager that they would count rounds and move in the few seconds of a mag change.
As the Mags would be changed more often on the BAR would this give the advantage to the Bren?
One thing I always remember from training.
Q. What is the smallest part of the Bren with the longest name.
A, Barrel locking nut retaining plunger.


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My late father said that his preferred weapon was a Bren, but I do not think that he ever handled a BAR.
Regards
Tom

 

Poll shows BAR way ahead

I go for Bren simple effective and reliable

 

and British - easier to load, larger magazine (plus no need to bang them on your head prior to loading), easily replaceable muzzle what more could you want ..................

TD

 

Yep. BREN seems clear winner to me. Same size, same ballistics, bigger mag but also has a quick change barrel.

No lefthanded BREN gunners though

 

That is why cunning commanders sited Brens in pairs...

In his report observing the infantry (and leading infantry units from platoon to battalion) Lionel Wigram ex CI of the central battle schools made some observations about organising a platoon for battle.

He thought a platoon should be fought as a big fighting patrol with the platoon commander taking the riflemen and TMG armed men as an assult group and the platoon sergeant taking the three LMGs as a gun group. This allowed for fire irrespective of stoppages and magazine reloads as well as better control of fire and avoided the more heavily laden Bren gunners lagging behind their section.

Wigram also observed that although the German spandaus were frighting they stopped firing when Bren's fired back. He thought the Germans were worried about their tracer betraying their positions.

 

When in the school play ground
Chanting. "All in for war"
Did you ever hear anyone shouting i will be the BAR gunner

I think not

 

Depends how much you like punching yourself in the face every time you have to cock it...

 

I didn't think the gunner would be able to see the sights around the magazine if he was firing lefty.

 

the point is moot there was no lefties back in the day, all were converted to righties, as was my dad who passed the correction on to me.
Matt

 

Another one of Joyce. Non gratuitous since she is on the set with Eddie Albert, who was awarded Bronze Star with V for Valor on Tarawa. Eva Gabor as well.

 

there was a lot more Brens than there was falschrimjagers. As the war progressed and infantry men became a premium the number of Brens per platoon went up to compensate..
if that doesn't convince you...
Famous Bren Gun Girl photo Veronica Foster by mrclark
Matt

 

Really, Eva Gabor won the Bronze Star too?

 

Hi Matt.
I am not saying it was necessarily a good tactic
Not sure what I need convincing of

 

Sorry!! no criticism intended interesting info I thought, I was just adding my 2 cents...the original question was Bren or BAR...I never miss an opportunity to post "Ronnie the Bren gun Girl" who actually worked in the Inglis factory in Toronto