Bob, as in Robert Gabriel Mugabe, can be blamed for many atrocities and rightly so. Connecting him with the Ottomans and starting WW1 and WW2 may be a bit of a stretch though.
I’m the oldest of four, but one is a female of the species. Me, brother, sister, brother, born in that order. My father was one of seven. My mother one of four. Big family. My youngest brother met his wife in Bosnia; but she’s a Brit too. His wife didn’t start WWII either.
If you follow that logic than Bosnia (and I guess Herzegovina too) caused the Cold War, and as the Cold War caused braking of the Soviet Union, Bosnia indirectly caused creation and braking of the Soviet Union. Mindblowing. I wonder how did you get that conclusion? People who killed Archduke Ferdinand were propagating idea of creation of one country for all Southern Slavs, Yugoslavia, or joining Bosnia and Herzegovina to Serbia. So if there is no Slavs in the Balkans there would not be idea of Yugoslavia. So you can blame Slavs for migrating in the Southern Europe and eventually creating a ww2. Simple. (Wow I didn't know that we caused two world wars. I guess everybody should be in fear if anything happen in Bosnia (and Herzegovina) in the future)
The cause of wars ( for dummies) looking through history from the opinion of top level no depth person like myself I dont like you I disagree with you You should wear all Red like us You should wear all Pink like us My military is bigger than your military You have land and riches I want I dont like your grammar you dont add the right apostrophes or full stops.Your/You're --There/Their (social media war) The one with the biggest ego gives it a go Mostly BULLIES who don't like other peoples opinions or thoughts or lifestyle and LOVE to correct at every opportunity. Some chap in the factional film Black Hawk Down said along the lines "We make war that is what we do" Onwards and upwards
I can see the new poster has asked a serious question , however it was a potential ticking timebomb, We all know where anything political goes .usually in a closed thread or someone getting banned ! So I hope Richo1 doesnt think we dont take his question seriously the answers given made me smile and defused the timebomb . The cause of all wars (according to the Terminator ) is "It`s in your nature to destroy yourselves" which is sadly quite true . Whatever the squabble,argument ,dispute we `sabre rattle` and eventually we regress to our most primitive form and `we kill each other!" . The causes of World Wars are never understood by those who fight them,those decisions are taken a long way from the battlefields. Perhaps this will draw a few comparrisons to this thread? Raise a few smiles? Pte Baldrick asked a similar question in `Black Adder Goes Forth` Pte Baldrick: "The thing is: The way I see it, these days there's a war on, right? and, ages ago, there wasn't a war on, right? So, there must have been a moment when there not being a war on went away, right? and there being a war on came along. So, what I want to know is: How did we get from the one case of affairs to the other case of affairs?" Capt Edmund Blackadder : "Do you mean "Why did the war start?" Pte Baldrick: "Yeah". Lieutenant George: "The war started because of the vile Hun and his villainous empire-building." Capt Edmund Blackadder; "George, the British Empire at present covers a quarter of the globe, while the German Empire consists of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika. I hardly think that we can be entirely absolved of blame on the imperialistic front." Lieutenant George: "Oh, no, sir, absolutely not. [aside, to Baldick] Mad as a bicycle! " Pte Baldrick: "I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich 'cause he was hungry. " Capt Edmund Blackadder ; "I think you mean it started when the Archduke of Austro-Hungary got shot." Pte Baldrick: "Nah, there was definitely an ostrich involved, sir." Capt Edmund Blackadder "Well, possibly. But the real reason for the whole thing was that it was too much effort not to have a war." Lieut George: "By Golly, this is interesting; I always loved history...The Battle of Hastings, Henry VIII and his six knives and all that! Capt Edmund Blackadder: "You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superblocs developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war." Pte Baldrick: "But this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?" Capt Edmund Blackadder : "Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan." Lieut George: "What was that, sir?" Capt Edmund Blackadder "It was bollocks". Pte Baldrick: "So the poor old ostrich died for nothing!" Kyle
Simply put , killing the arch duke triggered WW1 through a nasty chain of events. The term entangling alliances comes to mind. Generals failed to learn , causing massive and needless casualties. Everyone was angry and French soil was forever tainted. The order of the day was to punish the Germans. That is what made a second war in Europe inevitable.
A convenient narrative to downplay Austrian and German responsibility for the bloodshed their decisions caused. Responsibility for both wars. Let's blame WW1 on Serbia and WW2 on the allies for not losing!
Read 'The Vanquished - Why the First World War Failed to End, 1917-1923' by Robert Gerwarth (Penguin Books, 2017; ISBN 978--0141-97637-2).
Gerwerth quite correctly points out that there was no pause between WW1 and ww2 for the people of Europe. From what I have read , his argument is very well researched , exactly on point and very readable. I found one comment about his work to be very interesting. The Vanquished is an unnerving reminder of how stubbornly some geopolitical fault-lines endure.” ―Sinclair McKay, The Telegraph Thank you , I must add this to my reading list.
The History of the Treaty of Versailles - in Five Future Wars - Yugoslavia - BBC Sounds As the dusts of the Great War settled in 1919, the victorious Allied Powers of Britain, France and the United States gathered together in Paris to build a new, peaceful world. In this series, former BBC Diplomatic Editor Bridget Kendall explores how their decisions would influence a century of global conflict. Kings, prime ministers and foreign ministers with their crowds of advisers rubbed shoulders with journalists and lobbyists for a hundred causes, from independent nations to women's rights. For six extraordinary months the city was effectively the centre of world government as the peacemakers wound up bankrupt empires and created new countries. Formed in the breakup of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the delegates from the newly created Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes presented themselves to the great powers in Paris. Their country would come to be known at Yugoslavia, but sewn into the fabric of the new state were tensions that never went away, eventually leading to the country's breakup in the 1990s. Featuring contribution from Professor Margaret Macmillan, author of 'Peacemakers: Six Months that Changed the World' and Professor Dejan Djokić, Director of the Centre for the Study of the Balkans at Goldsmiths, University of London. Producer: Sam Peach
