1064497 Gunner John NEWELL,169th Battery, 57th LAA Rgt, Royal Artillery: 03/02/1942

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  1. Megann

    Megann New Member

    Was hoping some here would be able to point me in the right direction. I only know the very basics(name,marriage,rank, where he is buried and death) of my great-grandfather. He served in the 169th Battery, 57th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment of the Royal Artillery before being kia in 1942, leaving his wife alone in Belfast, NI. Would really love to learn more about him(I'd be especially ecstatic if I would find a picture as we don't have any), can anyone give any research tips or things that I should maybe look into?
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Megann
    Welcome to the forum.

    Has anyone in the family applied to MOD for copy service records?
    Request records of deceased service personnel
    These will supply information not available anywhere else and you can track his service, transfers, medal entitlement etc through them.

    Good luck with your research. (I see he's from the Shankill. My grandfather was from there too - ended up BSM in RA.)

    Full CWGC details, for the record
    Casualty Details | CWGC
    Service Number: 1064497
    Regiment & Unit: Royal Artillery, 169 Bty., 57 Lt. A.A. Regt.
    Date of Death: Died 03 February 1942
    Age 37 years old
    Buried or commemorated at
    Grave Reference: 3. B. 17.
    Location: Libya
    Additional Info: Husband of Esther Newell, of Shankhill, Belfast, Northern Ireland.

    These other threads might have some relevant info, haven't checked them though. There are bound to be others if you use search engine.
    57 light anti aircraft regiment ra | WW2Talk

    This is the reference for war diary, held at National Archives Kew. Perhaps some forum member might have a copy for relevant timeframe?
    Royal Artillery: 57 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment (RA LAA) | The National Archives
    Reference: WO 169/4896
    Description: Royal Artillery: 57 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment (RA LAA)
    Date: 1942 Jan.- Dec.

    Without copy records there's no way of knowing if he spent his whole service with them, but at least it will cover the time leading up to his death.
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2020
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  3. Megann

    Megann New Member

    Thank you so much!! I'll have to get out and visit my grandpa at some point to see if he'd apply for the records, no one else in the family is interested in knowing more unfortunately but hopefully we can get records!
  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    If you do apply to MOD be aware that their response times have slowed down recently Some folks are now resorting to sending undated cheques rather than risk being timed-out...
    Service Records application - MOD response timescale

    Also you might need a little bit of help in deciphering the entries in the paperwork. There's a sub-forum here just for that:
    Service Records

    In meantime check to see if any relatives kept letters which might have been sent home or other memorabilia: all adds to the big picture.
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  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    He was firstly reported 'Missing - 3.2.42' in Casualty List No. 765 Dated 7 March 1942 and subsequently 'Previously reported missing now presumed killed in action - 3.2.42' in Casualty List No. 1051 Dated 5 February 1943. The lists provide no additional information on the circumstances.
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