Hi everyone , My grandad was CPL David Bateman , 52nd Battalion , 6 th airborne division , ox and bucks light infantry . Also thought to of been in special service and did a raid in Dieppe with the 4 commandos . My grandad with the 6 airborne division was in glider 4 out of 6 to land first the night of dday . His glider was the glider that landed 8 miles off target . Once they landed they were met by the Germans which they fought of , by the next day escoville they were met by the Germans , my granddads best friend sgt Barwick was killed and another friend Raynor was shot by a dead german ( as he hi the deck ) . It was around this time my grandad was captured and taken POW at stalag 357 Poland and 2 and a bit months later was marched to fallingbostel 357 Germany . I never met my grandad and have been interested in his story prob since I was about 18 , 14 years later after only knowing that he was in the ox and bucks , I've discovered this story . I would like some gaps filled if anyone can help ? I'd liked to know if my grandad was captured with anyone else in his platoon and another information on my grandad during his time with the airborne and the commandos . My grandad war number was 5383417 . I'm looking forward to chatting with some of you .
Welcome to the forum. I have moved your post to it's own thread. Hope you get some good replies to your query.
Hi, I have just conducted a quick search of the records I have access to, and unfortunately I am unable to restrict my search to a specific period, other members here may be able to help further. You could also try contacting the following museums: Home - Soldiers of Oxfordshire Overview of The Royal Green Jackets Museum http://www.airborneassault-duxford.com/ Mark
Hi and welcome to the forum. If everything you have heard about your Grandfather is true (and I have no reason to doubt it) he had a very distinguished wartime service. Sometimes recollections can get blurred and the best way to establish the facts is to apply for his service record: service records army It might take a few months to get the record but it is far and away the best place to start. Good luck - you will find many members here willing to help with your research. Mike
The record from the UK, British Army Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 database on Ancestry: Name. J. Bateman Rank:Corporal Army Number:5383417 Regiment:Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry POW Number:70225 Camp Type:Stalag Camp Number:357 Camp Location:Oerbke, Lower Saxony Record Office:Infantry Record Office, Warwick Record Office Number:21
Welcome this a list of the men who were on the fourth Glider with your Grandad, his name is sixth down on the list. Ranville / Horsa Bridge Glider No.4 A Horsa glider towed by a Halifax tug piloted by Flying Officer Clapperton. All aboard, unless otherwise noted, were members of No.22 Platoon, designated No.4 Platoon for the duration of the Coup-de-Main Raid, of "D" Company, the 2nd Battalion The Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. Staff-Sergeant Lawrence (Glider Pilot Regiment) Staff-Sergeant Shorter (Glider Pilot Regiment) Lieutenant Tony Hooper (Platoon Commander) Sergeant Barwick Corporal Goodsir Corporal Bateman Lance-Sergeant Rayner Corporal Ambrose Corporal Hunt Private Allwood Private Wilson Private Hedges Private Everett Private St. Clair Private Waite Private Clive Private Timms Private Whitford Private Johnson Private Lathbury Private Hammond Private Frank Gardener (08) Private Jeffrey Captain Priday ("D" Company Headquarters, Second-in-Command) Lance-Corporal Lambley ("D" Company Headquarters, Company Clerk) Lance-Sergeant Brown (249th Field Company) Sapper Deighton (249th Field Company) Sapper Guest (249th Field Company) Sapper Paget (249th Field Company) Sapper Roberts (249th Field Company) The 6th Airborne Division in Normandy Found these pics which include one of Sgt Rayner who was on your Grandads Glider. Pegasus Veterans And here is his account his memories of 6 June 1944, he does mention them losing two men taken prisoner. BBC - WW2 People's War - Tich Rayners War Experiences
And the list of those who took part in the Dieppe raid, there is a L. Bateman, on the list Ox&Bucks but as well as wrong intial the army number is wrong so maybe a relative or confusion somewhere over the same surname. NCOs and other ranks of No 4 Commando: ‘Operation Cauldron’ August 19th 1942. 5183147 Sgt. Adlam W. Glosters. 3249930 L/Cpl. Aitken J. Camerons 6918457 Pte. Allan W. S. Staffs. T/71345 Sgt. Allsop W. R.A.S.C. 7017211 Rfn. Anderson R.J. R.U.R. 3965128 Pte. Andrews V.W. Welch Rgt. 1504772 Sgt. Austin A. R.A. 3319294 Pte. Bagdonas E. H.L.I. 3445730 Pte. Banks A. Lancs. Fus. 5345368 Pte. Barnes W. R. Berks. 7662631 Fus. Barnett G. R. Fus. 5382464 Pte. Bateman L. Ox & Bucks. 5389646 Cpl. Batty R. Ox & Bucks. 7901939 Sgt. Bend F. R.A.C. 7013529 Cpl. Birmingham C. R.U.R. 5674696 L/Cpl. Bishop J. Somerset L.I. 6905806 Cpl. Blunden G. Rifle Brigade 3187064 Pte. Bowskill W. K.O.S.B. 6980161 Fus. Boyd J.M. R. Irish Fus. 5389958 Pte. Bradbury G. Ox & Bucks. 6297735 Pte. Bradshaw S. Buffs. 4206261 Fus. Bramwell T. R.W.F. 5619678 Pte. Brooking A. Glosters. 3134093 Pte. Bryne C.W. Borders. 6292500 Pte. Burnett J. Buffs. 3317331 Pte. Burrell J. H.L.I. 6087599 Fus. Burrows P. R. Fus. 4346042 Pte. Burrows C. East Yorks. 2719257 Gdsm. Byrne P.J. Irish Guards 3313393 Pte. Campbell T. H.L.I. 3194284 Pte. Carlin J. K.O.S.B. 2618377 Gdsm. Chamberlain P. GrenadierGrds 53811205 Tsm. Chattaway L. Ox & Bucks. 6850530 L/Cpl. Chitty J. K.R.R.C. 5880377 Pte. Clark M. Buffs. 6028720 Pte. Clement D.R. Suffolks. 5186173 L/Cpl. Cleveley E. Glosters. 2619831 Gdsm. Clewes J.D. GrenadierGrds 206488 Fus. Cook G. R.W.F. 6292556 Pte. Coote A. Buffs. 3248703 Pte. Craig G. Camerons. 4036812 Sgt. Cross E.W. K.S.L.I. 5953035 Pte. Dale J. Beds & Herts. 868384 Gnr. Davies B.K. R.A. 734604 Gdsm. Dennis A. Welsh Guards. 6340886 Sgt. Desmond M. R. West Kents 6291999 L/Cpl. Diplock A. Buffs. 4914037 Sgt. Dobbs A. S. Staffs. 4914036 Pte. Dobbs C. S. Staffs. 3962136 Pte. Doubler C.A. Welch Rgt. 364981 Pte. Donkin H. S. Lancs. 6293173 Pte Duhig J. Buffs. 7893672 Tsm. Dunning J. R.A.C. 3673408 Pte. Elliot G. Somerset L.I. 4031772 Sgt. Evans J. K.S.L.I. 889636 Gnr. Evans H. R.A. 5957221 Pte. Farnborough F. Beds & Herts. 7903742 Tpr. Finney W. R.A.C. 3858160 L/Cpl. Fletcher A. Loyals. 5342083 L/Cpl. Flowers D. R. Berks. 3199275 L/Cpl. Flynn J. K.O.S.B. S/7896 Cpl. Ford V.E. R.A.S.C. 5347572 Pte. Fraser E.L. R. Berks. 2737968 Gdsm. Fraser L.J.E. Welsh Guards. 1642259 L/Sgt. Garnett C.V. R.A.S.C. 3854009 Pte. Garthwaite W.O. Loyals 5111581 Pte. Goff S. Warwicks. 6145770 L/Cpl. Gooch F.M. E. Surreys. 3969776 Pte. Grace G. Welch Rgt. 4350446 Cpl. Graham G. E. Yorks. 2619786 Cpl. Grocock W. GrenadierGrds 1426804 Sgt. Halliday J. R.A. 876901 Gnr. Halmshaw A. R.A. 5186589 Sgt. Ham F. Glosters. 1398036 Gnr. Hampton H. H.A.C. 3861617 L/Cpl. Hampton G. Loyals. 3601406 Pte. Harris G.F. Borders. 8271943 Gnr. Harvey W. R.A. 3965370 Sgt. Heaynes L. Welch Rgt. 5344513 L/Cpl. Heckman E.P.H. R. Berks. 7010953 Rfn. Heggarty J. R.U.R. 7264010 Cpl. Henry A. R.A.M.C. 2931557 Pte. Hesketh G. Liverpool Scottish 3534999 Pte. Hibbert J. Loyals 2735047 Gdsm. Hill S. Welsh Guards 2077980 Cpl. Hinton M. R.E. 2619941 Gdsm. Hodgson T. GrenadierGrds 6478881 Pte. Hoodless D.S. R. Fusiliers. 6297771 Pte. Hooper O. Buffs. 5118341 Pte. Horne F.J. S. Staffs. 5948229 Sgt. Horne G. Beds & Herts. 889681 Bdr. Howat G. R.A. 2734873 Gdsm. Howells G.T. Welsh Guards. 5111985 Sig. Hughes C.J. R. Warwicks. 2927941 Cpl. Hughes A.H. S. Lancs. 2621891 Gdsm. Humphreys H. GrenadierGrds 2620946 Gdsm. Hurd A.E. GrenadierGrds 4983150 Pte. Hydes F. Sherwood Foresters 4337783 Pte. Ibbotson J. E. Yorks. 1398027 Gnr. Iveson G.H. R.A. 5111228 L/Cpl. Jackson J. R. Warwicks. 915014 L/Cpl. Johnson F.C. R.A. 5110959 L/Cpl. Johnson J. R. Warwicks. 79055832 L/Cpl. Jones G.E. R.T.R. 6854309 Pte. Keeley J. K.R.R.C. 7012717 Rfn. Keenan J. R.U.R. 4694937 Pte. Keighley J. K.O.Y.L.I. 3968414 Pte. Kendall G. R. Warwicks. 5336379 Pte. Kendrick P.G. R. Berks. 5781656 Sgt Kennedy S. R. Norfolks. 20733019 Spr. Kennet K.K. R.E. 3864762 Pte. Kerr R. Loyals. 2620144 Gdsm. King C. GrenadierGrds 6297700 Pte. Knowles M. Buffs. 3604647 Pte. Lane J.E. Borders. 2765791 L/Cpl. Laing D. Black Watch. 5675016 Sgt. Langlands G. Somerset L.I. 3968864 Pte. Lansley F. R. Warwicks. 884501 L/Bdr. Larment H. R.A. 4546257 Pte. Leach C. W. Yorks. 3970069 Sgt. Lewis E.J. Welch Rgt. 5494647 Pte. Le Maitre W. Hampshires. 6291391 Cpl. Lilley J. Buffs. 2073383 Sgt. Lillicoe R.E. R.E. 4345289 Sgt. Lindley H. E. Yorks. 5730322 L/Cpl. Long E. Dorsets. 2733639 L/Cpl. Lloyd C.L. Welsh Guards. 5344652 L/Cpl. Mann R. R. Berks. 2614151 Gdsm. Marchant J. GrenadierGrds 5435059 Pte. Martyn L.S. D.C.L.I. 2621497 Gdsm. Marshall E. GrenadierGrds 26199554 Gdsm. Marshall R. GrenadierGrds 4350439 Pte. Mather B. E. Yorks. 10503256 Gnr. Maund F. R.A. 5111136 Pte. May J. R. Warwicks. 2621526 Gdsm. Maybury J. GrenadierGrds 3775704 L/Sgt. McCarthy F. Kings Rgt. 9426250 Gnr. McCartney J. R.A. 828757 Gnr. McCormack J. R.A. 3310783 Pte. McDermott J. H.L.I. 4390628 Gnr. McDonic J. Green Howards. 2198211 Gnr. McDonough T. R.A. 3653925 Pte. McGann S. S. Lancs. 3778700 Pte. McGlory J. Kings Rgt. 7516695 Pte. McLean J. R.A.M.C. 5341993 Pte. McLoughlin W.J. R. Berks. 3853876 Cpl. McVeigh P. Loyals. 2693943 Pte. Mellis J. Lovat Scouts 3773037 L/Cpl. Mercer D.T. Kings (Liverpool) 7902963 L/Cpl. Middleton F. R.A.C. 3777204 L/Cpl. Mills A. S Lancs. 2661694 Gdsm. Moore J.O. Coldstream Gds 7878047 Rsm. Morris W. R.A.C. 3850897 Pte. Moss J. Loyals. 3771020 Pte. Mullaniff J. R.A.C. 2075499 L/Cpl. Mullen B.J. R.E. 2721240 Gdsm. Moloughney J. Irish Guards. 5123514 Cpl. Nankivell J. R. Warwicks. 3189059 Pte. Notman J. K.O.S.B. 805120 Gnr. Norris A. R.A. 3319042 Pte. O’Donnell R. H.L.I. 5833286 Pte. Ong R. Suffolks. 2718837 Gdsm. Orr J. Irish Guards. 5111978 Pte. Overbury T. R Warwicks. 5342934 Pte. Paget E. R. Berks. 7597121 Pte. Pardoe D. S. Staffs. 3709917 Pte. Park J. R.A.O.C. 7262386 Pte. Pasquale Jim. R.A.M.C. 7359503 Pte. Pasquale Joe. R.A.M.C. 5618281 Pte. Patey F.S. Devons. 843165 Pte. Payne W. R.A. 1427522 Bdr. Pike H.J. R.A. 1870112 Sgt. Portman I. R.E. 2617353 Gdsm. Powell J. GrenadierGrds 5110316 Pte. Price J.E.D. R. Warwicks. 947113 Gnr. Price J. R.A. 3970880 Pte. Richards N. Welch Rgt. 4469318 Pte. Richards T. Durham L.I. 7013052 Rfn. Rogers W. R.U.R. 3600232 Pte. Rudd R. Borders. 11000189 Pte. Ruskin L.J. R.A. 1509732 Gnr. Ryan F.J. R.A. 6850526 Rfn. Seal A. K.R.R.C. 6142679 L/Cpl. Sellars W. E. Surreys. 7386392 L/Cpl. Scanlon G. R.A.M.C. 6144649 L/Cpl. Skerry J.C. E. Surreys. 5672383 L/Cpl. Skinner B. R. Berks. 2616557 Gdsm. Smith S.R. GrenadierGrds T/99352 L/Cpl. Smith E.A. R.A.S.C. 3188233 Pte. Somers J. K.O.S.B. 2616669 Cpl. Spearman W.J. GrenadierGrds 6910706 Tsm. Stockdale W.R. Rifle Brigade 4347101 Pte. Sutton G.H. E. Yorks. 6291136 Pte. Swailes G. Buffs. 4038517 Pte. Swinson T. K.S.L.I. 815495 Pte. Taylor T. R.A. 6297957 Pte. Tilly S.V. Buffs. 2615853 Gdsm. Tombs P.G. GrenadierGrds 2586214 Sig. Tucker G.A. R. Corps Signals 7903221 Tpr. Thompson J. R.A.C. 5343090 Pte. Vestey J. Worcesters. 1891290 Spr. Vickers G. R.E. 180262 L/Cpl. Vowles G. R.A.S.C. 6291393 Pte. Waddington C. Buffs. 3657617 Pte. Walker A. S. Lancs. 889072 L/Cpl. Wall D. R.A. 8835093 Cpl. Wallace J. Suffolks. 7014930 Rfn. Wallis F. R.U.R. 4346253 L/Cpl. Walsh J.W. E. Yorks. 2620747 Gdsm. Walters K. GrenadierGrds 7012390 Rfn. Watters J. R.U.R. 5946788 Sgt. Watkins S. Beds & Herts. 53365587 Pte. Webb D.H. R. Berks. 2619850 Gdsm. Webster L.G. GrenadierGrds 5958490 Pte. Wells P. Beds & Herts. 5387562 L/Cpl. Whatley J. Ox & Bucks L.I. 3387224 Sgt. Wharf J. E. Lancs. 2620598 Gdsm. Whitaker J. GrenadierGrds 5831129 Pte. White M. Suffolks. 5338629 Pte. Whitling W. R. Berks. 60097739 Tsm. Williams C. Essex Rgt. 7903178 Cpl. Woodward L. R.A.C. 5388317 Sig. Woodyer K. Ox & Bucks L.I. Dieppe - 19 August 1942 - No 4 Commando
Ok I am now offically confused two different army numbers same surname and regiment and middle name starting with L which makes more sense of the Dieppe connection, so going by this its the same guy I assume MK this is posted by you...... Cpl. David L. Bateman 52nd Btn. Oxford and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry My granddad, David Bateman was in glider 4 out of the 6 gliders that landed at Pegasus bridge on d-day. His glider landed 8 miles away from the bridge and was later captured I believe on the 7/6/44. He served under Major Howard and there is a memorial at Pegasus bridge Ranville-Benouville Normandy for the men who served in the 6th airborne division, 52nd battalion Oxford and Buckingham Light Infantry. I do not know much about his time at Stalag 357 as I never had the chance to meet my granddad as he died before I was born. If by chance anybody has any more info on David Bateman please let me know. I do know he did a lot of his training in Ilfracombe, Devon and I believe this is where he met his wife, Kathleen Pugsley. On a picture of a glider is a list of ladies names including Kath. Jane Bateman The Wartime Memories Project - The Second World War - The Oxford and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
Of those on your grandfather's glider, I have found the following on CWGC: Name:BARWICK, CHRISTOPHER CYRIL Initials:C C Nationality:United Kingdom Rank:Serjeant Regiment/Service:Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry Unit Text:2nd (Airborne) Bn. Age:24 Date of Death:7/06/1944 Service No:5383457 Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference:Grave 22. Cemetery:HEROUVILLETTE NEW COMMUNAL CEMETERY Name:EVERETT, ERIC JACK Initials:E J Nationality:United Kingdom Rank:Private Regiment/Service:Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry Unit Text:2nd (Airborne) Bn. Age:22 Date of Death:7/06/1944 Service No:6031906 Additional information:Son of Basil Eli Edmund and Ada May Everett, of Roxwell, Essex. Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference:IA. J. 13. Cemetery:RANVILLE WAR CEMETERY Name:HEDGES, WILLIAM PATRICK Initials:W P Nationality:United Kingdom Rank:Private Regiment/Service:Oxford and Bucks Light Infantry Unit Text:2nd (Airborne) Bn. Age:32 Date of Death:7/06/1944 Service No:5381332 Additional information:Son of H. and Alice Maud Hedges; husband of P. Mabel Hedges, of Osney, Oxfordshire. Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead Cemetery:PERIERS-EN-AUGE CHURCHYARD I may have found the second member of the Platoon taken prisoner, I am assuming this as the camp number, etc. is the same as your Grandfather's (this is from the UK, British Army Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 database on Ancestry): Name:A. L. Goodsir Rank:Corporal Army Number:5381509 Regiment:Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry POW Number:70447 Camp Type:Stalag Camp Number:357 Camp Location:Oerbke, Lower Saxony Record Office:Infantry Record Office, Warwick Record Office Number:21 Mark
Thanks guys . The commando 4 thing was recently made known to us my grandads full name was Dave j l Bateman . The certificate that was sent to my family was also written David j l Bateman . I believe there was a mess up with soldier number . I o have his service record which says he played a part in special services . Brilliant help . I did hear that lathbury had been captured and ambrose any idea what pow cam . Great help peeps
The records I can find for Lathbury and Ambrose are: Name:W. J. Lathbury Rank:Private Army Number:5392704 Regiment:Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry Camp Type:Stalag Camp Number:IV-G Camp Location:Oschatz, Saxony Record Office:Infantry Record Office, Warwick Record Office Number:21 Name:A. C. Ambrose Rank:Lance Corporal Army Number:5955468 Regiment:Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry POW Number:82932 Camp Type:Stalag Camp Number:VIII-B Camp Location:Cieszyn, Poland Record Office:Infantry Record Office, Warwick Record Office Number:21 Mark
Can somebody find out if there was an l Bateman in the ox and bucks as well in 1939 - 49 ? My grandad name was David john llewelyn Bateman . It says in his service record he was also in special service or special force .
Ok great document thank you , I wish I could find an account from my grandfather . I never met him so details like the 4commandos thing I really want cleared up so if somebody could look up to see if there was an L Bateman in the ox and bucks , I've never found one . The guy that issued the certificate for fighting in dieppe , asked us for my grandads soldier number to confirm . So now I'm also puzzled . Help
Ok great document thank you , I wish I could find an account from my grandfather . I never met him so details like the 4commandos thing I really want cleared up so if somebody could look up to see if there was an L Bateman in the ox and bucks , I've never found one . The guy that issued the certificate for fighting in dieppe , asked us for my grandads soldier number to confirm . So now I'm also puzzled . Help Given what I posted earlier about the differances between the numbers you said 5383417 and number on Dieppe raid list is 5382464........ and the intials well you cleared that up with the full name of your Grandad, so that fits as does the Parent regiment being Ox&Bucks....... from 42 on Dieppe to 44 and pegasus Bridge, now the army number is only out by 48 seems to close for me........ so I reckon that the 24 and 34 have been written wrong somewhere as has the 64 and 71, im pretty sure looking at all the info that your Grandad is the same Bateman. And when I dig it out I will see if this book which covers the commandos roll at Dieppe very well can help, all the best Jason.
From the bottom of my heart thank you for your time . Excellent .. Il never have the pleasure of talking with my grandad , such a great man by all accounts . But I do have the pleasure because of guys like you of following his history . I want to know it all .
