4th Battalion Dorsets Arnhem

Discussion in 'Airborne' started by Philip Reinders, Jul 3, 2011.


    FUBARSTAR Member

    Sorry it's a few years after original post but new to site.
    I understand my great uncle was in 4th dorsets in ww2, his name was Tom streeting.
    Does anyone have any info on this as I would like to look up his records.
    Also did this book get published?
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi - In short I would get a copy of his service records to confirm his unit(s) first then if he was indeed 4 Dorsets for the duration look or get copies of the following war diaries:

    WO 166/4208 4 Dorsetshire Regiment. 1939 Sept.- 1941 Dec
    WO 166/8651 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1942 Jan.- Dec.
    WO 166/12523 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1943 Jan.-Dec.
    WO 171/1286 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1944 Jan.- Dec.
    WO 171/5174 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1945 Jan.- Nov
    WO 170/5001 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1945 Dec.
    WO 170/7991 4 Dorsetshire Regiment 1946 Jan.- June

  3. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith New Member

    Hi all,

    I'm researching for my Grandad. He is Roy Smith, or "Smudger Smith" Private 14702357. He's 88 and very well, living in Kent, me and his other grandson are taking him to visit Arnhem this year.

    He rarely talks about the war but his eyes light up when he does. I'd love to find any photos or documents about the 4th Battalion please?

    He spent 15 weeks training in Canterbury (Buffs)
    He moved through Bayeraux - Caen - Belgium and onto Arnhem where they were meant to link up with the Airborne.
    He was captured and spent 8 months in Stalag 12A POW camp.

    If you know of anyone who would like to find out any information from him please email me, i show him pictures/names but he always says it was abit of a mess and no one really knew each other or even knew what was going on.
    He has a document that says all 4th Battalion were volunteers and knew it was a suicide mission.......according to him thats not true, no one knew anything!

    I would really appreciate any help you can offer please, he's a true hero in war, life and his families eyes.

    Thank you

  4. Sandraam

    Sandraam New Member

    Hi, I realise this post isn't recent but I would like to add my fathers name to the list. His name was Thomas Alfred Moore; army number 6138508; enlisted 01/03/40 previously in TA division from 1928. His leave certificate says 'trustworthy, conscientious and capable NCO' however I do not know his rank. Acting sergeant comes to mind though. I do have some small photos taken at Arnhem that I could scan for you if they would be of interest to you.
  5. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Yes, please do scan them in.
  6. Sandraam

    Sandraam New Member

    Here are the photo's that I have - I did say they were small! The man in the photo is my Dad. I hope they are of interest to you. scan 2016_07_20 11-55-56u.jpeg scan 2016_07_20 12-00-16.jpeg
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  7. David Paradise

    David Paradise New Member

    Hi , My father was at Arnhem with the 4th Dorsets. Pte John Paradise. He was injured by mortar fire after crossing the Rhine, ( He always called it the Lek).

    He was casevaced back across the river at some stage during the early hours with two Engineers, one with shrannel in the ankle and the other with shranel in the knee. My father was the human crutch as he had been hit in the face/ jaw. Ended up back in the uk but then back to the Battalion some time during Jan or Feb.
    Was on the 4th Dorset tour party that followed the battalion route back across to Normandy in Sept 1945. I would guess the first ever ww2 battlefield tour.

    Not been on these forums before. what other information do you need.
    I did have an article published in After the Battle a few years ago after myself and few friends followed my fathers route though France.
  8. Gloria Cunningham

    Gloria Cunningham New Member

    Hi, my great uncle was sadly killed in 1945 Serving for Dorsetshire Regiment . This is a pic of his grave in France, would anyone know how to find out more about him? How to point me in the right direction?
    My Nan ( Roy’s sister) is still alive and she is keen to know more

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  9. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Gloria - The operations of the 4th Dorsets on 15 Feb 45 are described here: VERITABLE 1945: 15th Scottish & 43rd Wessex Divisions in the Reichswald battle

    The location of the grave is not France, but the Reichswald Cemetery at Cleve, Germany.

    The 4th Dorsets were fighting with the 43rd Wessex Division and at the time were involved in Operation Veritable or the Fight for the Rhineland, the final push of the 21st Army Group to the banks of the Rhine River inside Germany. The operation was launched on Feb 8th, 1945, from the Dutch/German border east of Nijmegen, opposite the enemy held Reichswald Forest. The battle for that reason is often remembered as the Reichswald Battle, but the hardest fighting actually took place to the east of this Forest; the Battle for the Rhineland therefore would be a more appropriate indication.

    15 Feb 45 was a day of hard fighting for the 43rd Wessex Division in the area to the SE of Cleve, Germany. On that day the division tried to move forward from the Eselsberg, a recently captured terrain elevation that commanded a stretch of open arable ground between two forests, the Cleve Forest to the south and Moyland Wood to the north. The Wessex Division ran into stubborn resistance. The War Diary of the 4th Dorsets reported a loss of 70 casualties for that day of which 25 killed in action. Only after two days and nights of continuous fighting by the 130 Bde and the 214 Bde of the 43rd Wessex Division was the enemy defense in this area finally overcome.
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  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Germany, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
    Name: Roy Alfred Marvin
    Maiden Name:
    Death Date: 15 Feb 1945
    Cemetery: Reichswald Forest War Cemetery
    Burial or Cremation Place: Kleve, Klever Landkreis, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    Has Bio?: N
    URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Roy Marvin
    Given Initials: R A
    Rank: Private
    Death Date: 15 Feb 1945
    Number: 14404286
    Birth Place: London E
    Residence: London E
    Branch at Enlistment: Infantry
    Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
    Regiment at Death: Dorsetshire Regiment
    Branch at Death: Infantry

    You can apply for his service records from the MOD - link to forms is - Request records of deceased service personnel


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