6 April 1944, Anzio

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  1. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Any info about these 2 men please.

    Corporal Harold Ayres Mott | War Casualty Details | CWGC
    MOTT, HAROLD AYRES
    Rank: Corporal
    Service No: 4977046
    Date of Death: 06/04/1944
    Age: 25
    Regiment/Service: Army Catering Corps attd.14th Bn. Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)
    Grave Reference: XII. A. 10.
    Cemetery: BEACH HEAD WAR CEMETERY, ANZIO
    Additional Information: Son of William Ayres Mott and Annie Mott; husband of Margaret Mott, of New Ollerton, Nottinghamshire.
    Personal Inscription: IN LOVING MEMORY OF A DEAR HUSBAND AND FATHER. YOU ARE ALWAYS IN OUR HEARTS. WIFE MARGARET, SON KENNETH


    Private Reginald George Davison | War Casualty Details | CWGC
    DAVISON, REGINALD GEORGE
    Rank: Private
    Service No: 4976044
    Date of Death: 08/04/1944
    Age: 23
    Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) 1st Bn.
    Grave Reference: XII. C. 3.
    Cemetery: BEACH HEAD WAR CEMETERY, ANZIO
    Additional Information: Son of George William and Lucy Davison, of Newark, Nottinghamshire.
    Personal Inscription: PEACE, PERFECT PEACE


    I have ordered their DC's but may just come back " War Operations ".
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Harold Ayres Mott
    Birth: Abt. 1919
    Death: 06 Apr 1944
    (6 Apr 1944) - Anzio, Roma, Lazio, Italy
    Marriage: Dec 1939 - Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
    Spouse: Margaret Jenkins
    F: William Ayres Mott
    M: (Name Unknown) - It is known as CWGC details give her name as Annie

    Not sure how you can order their DC's - as they were KIA - and under CWGC, DC's are only issued for civil registered deaths ???? - I hope you are not getting confused because there is another Harold Ayres Mott

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Harry Aryes Mott
    Death Age: 78
    Birth Date: 20 Aug 1917
    Registration Date: Mar 1996

    Registration district: Nottingham
    Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
    Register Number: D61A
    District and Subdistrict: 6891D

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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: Reginald Davison
    Given Initials: R G
    Rank: Private
    Death Date: 8 Apr 1944
    Number: 4976044
    Birth Place: Nottinghamshire
    Residence: Nottinghamshire
    Regiment at Enlistment: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment)
    Branch at Enlistment: Infantry
    Theatre of War: Italy
    Regiment at Death: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment)
    Branch at Death: Infantry

    UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947
    Name: Reginald George Davison
    Age: 23
    Birth Date: abt 1921
    Death Date: 8 Apr 1944
    Cemetery: Beach Head War Cemetery
    Burial Country: Italy
    Father: George William Davison
    Mother: Lucy Davison
    Regimental Number: 4976044
    Region or Memorial: Italy

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  4. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

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  5. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    I would have gladly posted the war diaries of 14 Foresters, but ( i have yet) to get them. It will complete the diaries that i have for the First Division in the Anzio Campaign. I would say that you could try & obtain a rather rare copy of the History of the Sherwood Foresters, but that would not give you much joy. I could be wrong on that though.

    One thing i will say is that 18 Brigade took one hell of a kicking, after taking over from 24 Guards Brigade. 18 Brigade lost 1019 men-
    Killed, wounded & Missing (14 Foresters = 394!) Source, page 172 APPENDIX `B' Anzio Campaign Battle Casualties. History of The First Division Anzio Campaign Jan-June 45.

    If you are interested, then i will take a photo of the headstones of these chaps when I'm out in Anzio in June. That is if someone else can provide them before then.

    Regards,
    Stu. Edit.. Just clocked that you have mentioned 1st Bn on your second chap. I'm not sure about that. 2nd Battalion may be?
     
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  6. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    TD You can order death certs for service personnel , they come back as accident , illness or war operations. If they die after injury later they list a c.o.d. I have ordered quite a few , but at £14 a go it soon racks up.

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  7. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Both men KIA , no detail obviously but least it rules out accident or illness.

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  8. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Here are the three pages from Barclay's regimental history of the Sherwood Foresters on the 14th Battalion's time at Anzio. 14thForestersAnzio01.jpg 14thForestersAnzio02.jpg 14thForestersAnzio03.jpg
     
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  9. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    David, the last paragraph on page 113 Italy--ll looks quite interesting. Not sure has to how the 2 Foresters came by those Battle Casualties? If you can call it a honour, then it goes to the 1 DWR.. See Full Image below.

    Stu.
    172..jpg
     
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  10. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Stu.

    We have walked the ground that 2 FORESTERS mounted their attack on Campoleone.

    Worry not, we will walk the ground together again in June.

    Regards

    Frank
     
  11. DAVE MARTIN

    DAVE MARTIN Member

    Very interested to read the battalion history of the 14th Battalion Sherwood Foresters as I own the GSM Palestine (pre war)/LSGC/WW2 medal group to 4971847 Company Sergeant Major A J Shaw, who was wounded at Anzio on 20th March 1944. He is not mentioned by name in the battalion history, but I was wondering if anyone had the war diary to check if he was mentioned in that - being a senior rank. Also if was wondering if his name is mentioned in any other Sherwood Foresters documents that members own. He was a sergeant for his pre war Palestine tour (1st Battalion) but probably returned to the UK after the tour to join the 14th Battalion when they were formed in 1940.
    Thanks to any members who can help
    Dave
     
  12. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    Only been able to have a quick look at War Diary, and i can't see him mentioned by name but entry for 20th March 1015am as follows:-
    'C Coy report 5 casualties from enemy light mors. (incl CSM).'

    When i get a bit more time later on this week i'll try have a proper look at the WD's (only got Feb & Mar 44) and the missing personnel file of the 14 Foresters.

    Regards
     
  13. DAVE MARTIN

    DAVE MARTIN Member

    Thanks very much.
    That's really good of you, very interesting information that you have already given me.
    Regards
    Dave
     
  14. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    David, is this book by Brigadier C.N. Barclay, C.B.E., D.S.O. ? He did one on the London Scottish & the Duke of Wellingtons if it is? He's probably done some other regiments..

    I will have a look at the 14 Foresters War diaries has i have them. Clanky Pencil may come back before me. I do know that they are quite detailed in parts has to what I've read up to press.

    Regards;
    Stu.
     
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  15. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Stu:

    Yes. It is by Brigadier C. N. Barclays.
     
  16. Peterosgood

    Peterosgood Member

    Hi Dr
    Hi dryan67! You dont have access to the pages before this do you? they look to be for 2 FORS actions whom fought alongside a relative of mine in the Dukes at the time of his death. If you are able to point me in the right direction id be forever grateful!

    Regards
    Pete
     
  17. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Pete.

    I have info on 1 DWR at Anzio. What are you looking for?

    In case you were not aware, they were in 3 Infantry Brigade with 2 FORESTERS and 1 KSLI.

    They got into a terrible scrap securing and then defending the Campoleone Salient in late Jan/early Feb 44. They were forced to withdraw but left all their heavy weapons behind.

    Regards

    Frank
     
  18. Peterosgood

    Peterosgood Member

    Hi Frank thanks for your message!

    David has very kindly sent me lots of pages from history books and filled in many blanks so far! (Fors and Dwo books)

    My great Uncle met his demise in operation ‘ant’ of the 2 Fors and 1 DOW attacking Pontini objectives 22 May 1944. I have the operation plans including grid references, war diaries indicating Coy losses etc. My ideal goal would be to work out what Coy he was in and get a better understanding on the details surrounding his death (might be optimistic!) so any information you may have from around this date would be very useful!

    Im going to avoid the desperate urge I have to ask for any info you may be able to share on the Salient subject as my wife is already wondering if I have lost the plot haha!

    I have 3 other great uncles who lost lives in different theatres of ww2 so I suspect this may be a new pastime if mine!

    Best Regards
    Pete
     

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