6466944 Pte John ROBINSON, 1st Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers

my grandfather was Pte j Robinson 1st battalion,royal irish fusiliers reg number 6466944.i have found him on the CWGC SITE.
can someone advise me on where i could obtain his joining up details?
where at that time were royal Irish Fusiliers ?was he irish or would he have to be living in Ireland.my partners tree i got back to 1630 i cant get further than 1903! on my side.
plus is therea site where i can find out about someone who done National Service?

any help gratefully received..

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died 23 oct 1943 WWII TRIPOLI
Casualty Details | CWGC

maggie mcchesney

 

Welcome to the forum Maggie.

 

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my grandfather was Pte j Robinson 1st battalion,royal irish fusiliers reg number 6466944.i have found him on the CWGC SITE.
can someone advise me on where i could obtain his joining up details?
where at that time were royal Irish Fusiliers ?was he irish or would he have to be living in Ireland.my partners tree i got back to 1630 i cant get further than 1903! on my side.
plus is therea site where i can find out about someone who done National Service?

any help gratefully received..

he
died 23 oct 1943 WWII TRIPOLI


maggie mcchesney

Hi Maggie,
having a Royal Irish Fusiliers number doesn't necessarily mean that your Grandfather was Irish.
I came across something similar a few years ago. Apparently young men who were in reserved occupations and wanted to Join up caught a Ferry to Ireland. Here they declared their occupation to be such as Decorator, Labourer or any other non reserved occupation.They were accepted.
The 11th R.H.A. has a few casualties who's Home Towns were in mining areas.

Hope this helps.

 

my grandfather was Pte j Robinson 1st battalion,royal irish fusiliers reg number 6466944.i have found him on the CWGC SITE.
can someone advise me on where i could obtain his joining up details?
where at that time were royal Irish Fusiliers ?was he irish or would he have to be living in Ireland.my partners tree i got back to 1630 i cant get further than 1903! on my side.
plus is therea site where i can find out about someone who done National Service?

any help gratefully received..

he
died 23 oct 1943 WWII TRIPOLI

maggie mcchesney

Hi Maggie,
you seem to have a few facts wrong; Fus.Joseph Robinson Royal Irish Fusiliers 6466944.Died 23/10/43 and Buried in The Sangro River War Cemetery Italy.
Son of John Robinson,Stepson of Mary Robinson and Husband of Florence Robinson of Luton Beds.
Hope this sets you off in the right direction.

Brian

 

hi
this is my grandfather.florence is my grandmother.i'm trying to trace any info i can get as i know nothing about him apaprt from what is on cwwg.
thanks for replies i appeciate it

 

Hi Maggie

Researching WW2 soldiers can be quite difficult and often more so than WW1 as many of the documents remain time classified to researchers. However as NoK you will be able to request a copy of his service record by writing to

Army Personnel Centre
Historic Disclosures
Mailpoint 400
Kentigern House
65 Brown Street
Glasgow
G2 8EX

You will get a form back that you will need to fill in and then in due course you will receive back his records, these can be very enlightening or very sparse, the luck of the draw I'm afraid.

To find out more about the unit the 1 Battalion, you would need to find a copy of their regimental history. I know they produced one but do not have a copy of it. The regimental museum will have and they would be able to copy it for you. Don't however expect to have him named in the text, it will more likely just mention the losses for the day such as 'one officer and two other ranks killed.'

Also a trip to National Archives at Kew or pay a researcher to pull out the battalions war diary. This is a day by day account of the unit and its work written at the time. This can again be great or sparse but either way will confirm where he was and what they were doing.

I can see from their obvious records they were in Tunisia in April and May 1943 before going on to Sicily where they won a number of gallantry awards. They then transferred to the Italian mainland where they were on the Adriatic side. In the autumn units pushed up to the Gustav line in readiness for an attack and it is in this period your relative was killed (presuming he didn't die of wounds received earlier). In such cases its likely to be either a small probing patrol, or shell fire that has killed him but this is purely specualtion having researched other such period casualties from the Italian campaign.

However, as stated the earlier sources suggested will certainly give you some answers

Hope this helps
Steve

 

thanks everyone its given me a path to follow or hill to climb...either way i'm going to give it go..

thanks again everyone

 

thanks 45 and no wiser

 

my grandfather was J Robinson 6466944 died 1943 tripoli I have found him on the Commonwealth war graves site.. I cant find anything else on him..my grandmother was clementina who is mentioned on the record but how do I found out his army record we have nothing really only a name and Cumberland for birth... where would have signed up for Irish Fusiliers?...

I appreciate pretty basic stuff but going round in circles

 

Maggie,

ROBINSON, JOHN
Rank: Fusilier
Service No: 6466944
Date of Death: 23/10/1943
Age: 26 Regiment/Service: Royal Irish Fusiliers 1st Bn.
Grave Reference VIII. D. 4.
Cemetery SANGRO RIVER WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Robinson, and stepson of Mary Robinson; husband of Clementina Florence Robinson, of Luton, Bedfordshire.

 

http://www.irishbrigade.co.uk/pages/original-war-diaries---1942-to-1945/war-diaries-of-1-royal-irish-fusiliers/war-diaries-of-1-royal-irish-fusiliers---194243/october-1943-transcript.php

link to the transcribed diaries for Oct 1943..

The Faughs were near to the Trigno river on the 23rd October 1943.

best