7th Armoured Brigade Box 13 June 1944.

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  1. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Good Evening. This is my first post so let me introduce myself. My name is Nick Grace and I am trying to research into the 1/5th Queens West Surrey Regiment in the Normandy campaign. I am trying to find more information about when the 7th Armoured Division formed the Brigade Box West of Villers Bocage. I have the unit war dairy for the 1/5th for 1944 but was wondering if anyone knows of any good sources for this battle? It would also be wonderful if anyone knows of any good maps with the positions on.
    Thank you all.
     
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  2. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    Daglish was working on this when he died. Perhaps it may surface one day. You wouldn't happen to have 1/7th Queens entries for June 13th?
     
  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The George Forty book Villers-Bocage in the Battlezone Normandy series has a pretty good map of the box. I believe it's derived from what's in the Div's report on the battle - a document that is conspicuously absent from the Bde/Div war diaries. It seems that Forty had access to a personal copy which didn't make it into the Bovington library.

    Daniel Taylor's Villers-Bocage Through the Lens has a brief chapter on the box. The accompanying map has the units in pretty much the correct relative positions but the box is too far west.
     
  4. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Thank you for your replies. Sadly I have not copied the 1/7th war diary but when I do I will let you know. It is a good start and I will look at those so thank you.
     
  5. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    I am working on the Gunner side of this story, editing the work carried out by the Late Will Townend. I know where the gunners were.
     
  6. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Well any information is of help and good luck with the work.
     
  7. Pak75

    Pak75 Member

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    Nick

    Attached may be of help from WO 171/619 War diary 22 Armoured brigade June 1944

    If you purchase a map of the time ie 1:50000 Aunay sur Odon and surrounding maps (Battlefield historian has them on line) then you can pinpoint coordinates in the report on map.
    VB is in corner of map so you may need more than one, or check if there is a 1:25000 more suitable
    Sorry for fuzzy images.

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    Sheldrake All over the place....

  9. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Ah Brilliant that is very helpful. Thank you very much.
     
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    m kenny Senior Member

  11. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Thank you.
     
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    m kenny Senior Member

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  13. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Perfect thank you.
     
  14. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    I would like to thank you all for your help. With the items linked to me and the various books I have looked at and a few War Diaries I am sure I can now find the locations of the 1/5th Queens during the battle accurately.
     
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    m kenny Senior Member

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  16. nickgrace1

    nickgrace1 Active Member

    Oh thank you.
     
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  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Not sure if this helps. From History of the Queen's Royal Regiment by Foster

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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