A study of 10388 known Allied tank casualties in WW11(TM ORO-T-117)

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Harry Ree, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    An interesting study here of Operation Research findings into the causation of tank losses.

    "Panzerfaust is the worst weapon we have encountered in the exploitation of war. It will go through any US tank, and can be handled by even an inexperienced individual. It is the only weapon that is getting our tanks today" (Colonel W L Roberts US 4th US Armoured Division.21 April 1945)

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    Link should should be sufficient...https://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Ballistics/Term/ORO-T-117_Allied_Tank_Casualties_WW2.pdf
     
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  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Great stuff, Harry.
    Enjoying all the graphical charts etc., if 'enjoy' is the right word.
     
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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    I like the comment on page 13
     
  4. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    The first thing I thought was that this paper is going to be very interesting to read in depth. Then I noted that the Operations Research was undertaken by the John Hopkins University of Maryland.

    This organisation as far as I have read has earned much kudos for from their present work in the accurate reporting of the Covid 19 outbreak in the US.

    As this paper shows, regarding tank crew losses, the risk of death was on par with those losses sustained by Bomber Command aircrew.

    Adam.... all engineers usually are interested in graphics...trending in dynamic situations and attempting to anticipate the end game. Trending from graphics seems to be much favoured by HM Government in these difficult times.
     
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  5. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    It was done in 1951 and gives an overview of the situation and in no way is it to be taken as definitive. Treat it as a Wiki type primer. From what I can gather it was used/designed to validate the NATO belief that a few super-tanks could blunt the massive Soviet tank superiority. This gave legs to the Uber-Panzer explosion in western military writing that sustained the Uber-Panzer myths.
     
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  6. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

  7. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    I enjoyed the article and am also curious about the object in front of the cart. Could it be leather chaise lounge?
    Sort of Bauhaus looking. It probably isn't but I wonder what it could be.

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  8. Don Juan

    Don Juan Well-Known Member

    I think it's just a standard fabric-covered chair with one arm rest broken off. The backrest is on the right, and the seat is on the left.
     

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