Actual Rail Gun?

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Morar Andrei, Nov 19, 2017.

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  1. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    In the 1978 Romanian war movie "Ecaterina Teodoroiu", there is a scene after she escapes from the Germans when the Romanians are involved in destroying a German rail artillery piece that was threatening Târgu Jiu. Same story appears in our 4th class history books at school, being cosidered the source of her nickname "The Jiu Heroine", but there is no mention about this episode in any of her official biography, also being no mention about any German or Austro-Hungarian rail artillery used on this specific section of the front, neither in 1916 or 1917. Unfortunately, I can not remember the minute in the movie where that appears, but I want to know how real is that episode, shredded in mistery and Communist propaganda? Or has something true as an origin?
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

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  4. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    Indeed, I found nothing about destroying any rail gun. That appeared in the 1978 movie and in a "historical tale" by Dumitru Almaș called "The Jiu Heroine" , in the book "Historic tales", which was probably connected to the communist regime, last tales being about how mighty are Nikolai Ceausescu and the communists. Here are somu images from the book:
     

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  5. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    Still why would the fake history in such way? I know Ceausescu put a large accent on nationalism during his regeime, but this be the cause? In the book, there apears to be an armoured train. In the movie, that train also has a rail artillery piece. This is just what I've seen... I also wanted a screenshot from the movie with that artillery piece, but I couldn't find, unless I watch the movie again. Thank you!
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Perhaps

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    Gamma-Gerät (Gamma-device)—the railway-transported, concrete-emplaced predecessor to the Big Bertha

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    If you go to the bottom of that page there is a section that may be relevant

    Railroad artillery
    15 cm SK "Nathan" 17 cm SK L/40 "Samuel" 21 cm SK "Peter Adalbert" 24 cm SK L/30 "Theodor Otto" 24 cm SK L/40 "Theodor Karl" 28 cm SK L/40 "Bruno" 28 cm K L/40 "Kurfürst" 38 cm SK L/45 "Max

    Have a look at each one
     
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  7. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    I checked this list abd none of thse was used on the Romanian front. Thank you anyway!
     
  8. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    I found some images with both German and Austro-Hungarian armoured trains during the Romanian campaign from 1916, but I don't kniw which might have been used on the Jiu valley, under the circumstances from the movie and story...
     

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  9. Morar Andrei

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    Finally got an image from the movie. Sorry for bad resolution...

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  10. Morar Andrei

    Morar Andrei Active Member

    If there was no armoured train I used during the battle for Târgu Jiu, was the story invented by the communist propaganda machine in order to create character development for Ecaterina? Because, as I already mentioned, only just in the movie from 1978 and the the story "Ecaterina Teodoroiu, the Jiu Heroine" from the novels book "Historic Tales" - which is a large source of historucal innacuracies, overglorified characters and communist propaganda (last stories in the series were even talking about how mighty were the "soviet liberators" and dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu). The truth is that, during the communist regime, there was a large heroes' coult and accent put on nationalism, the Jiu Heroine being one of the main characters who got a lot of mysticism during this era.

    I also got a photo of the armoured train and rail gun as they are depicted in the 1978 movie (sorry forow quality, it was hard to get), together with images from "Historic Tales":

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