Arnhem Casualty

Discussion in 'Airborne' started by Jedburgh22, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Sgt Carl Scott was an American Jedburgh WTO who was part of Team Claude the Jedburgh Team at Arnhem Bridge. He was killed some time after the Arnhem operation - does anyone have details of where and how he died??
     
  2. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

    Sgt Carl Scott was an American Jedburgh WTO who was part of Team Claude the Jedburgh Team at Arnhem Bridge. He was killed some time after the Arnhem operation - does anyone have details of where and how he died??
    This line from the following link says in the Ardennes, I was able to find out who the American was. His name was Sgt Carl Scott and he was a member of the Jedburgh Team. He managed to escape from Arnhem, but was killed in the Ardennes in December 1944.BBC - WW2 People's War - Arnhem Bridge part 2
     
  3. horsapassenger

    horsapassenger Senior Member

    The Arnhem Roll of Honour states|:

    “SCOTT, Carl A.; Technical Sgt; 15121174; age 22.

    On 17 September 1944 Jedburgh-team 'Claude' was dropped near Wolfheze. It consisted of the Dutch Capt. Jacobus Groenewoud and the Americans Lt Harvey A. Todd and Technical Sgt Carl A. Scott (WO). Groenewoud and Todd reached the Rhine Bridge at Arnhem. Scott could not locate his radio set on the LZ, and subse­quently helped to defend the Oosterbeek perimeter. He was last seen on the 22nd.
    After the war his grave was found in the front garden of the manager of the 'De Blauwe Kamer' brickworks near the Opheusden ferry on the northern bank of the Rhine. His date of death was officially given as 2 November 1944. On that particular day a patrol by men of the 327th Glider Infantry (101st US Airborne Division) in the Wageningen area ended in disaster. Of the three men, 1 Lt Fred J. Rau and S/Sgt Gilbert M. Chinn were killed by German fire. S/Sgt Albert Sandmayer (S-2) was captured, and the three Dutch guides swam back to the Allied lines. After the war the graves of Rau and Chinn were located alongside the Grebbe­dijk near the house of Mr. Tuinier, close to the 'De Plasser­waard' brickworks and due NE of Scott's grave. It seems that Scott was involved in that patrol, but neither the 101st nor the Dutch guides knew this.
    In 1945 Sgt Scott was reinterred in the US Military Cemetery Ardennes at Neuville-en-Condroz, Belgium, plot J-10-246. Sometime around 1949 he was given a permanent resting place in his home town in the United States of America.
    At first I did not know the date of death, so I assumed that he was one of the many who drowned during the withdrawal of the troops from Oosterbeek on the night of 25/26 September.”

    Some time ago I asked Mark Bando, who has written many books and articles about the 101st and 82nd Airborne if he could throw any further light on this incident. He replied:
    "I briefly alluded to the patrol incident in one of my books but I have never been able to get detailed info about it. I assume the casualties were sustained on the north bank of the Neder Rhine, which required a crossing by rafts. I believe by November 2d, all German units in the Opheuseden area were either considerably west of that town or across on the northern side of the river"
     
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  4. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

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  6. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Hmm I rule out the Ardennes and go with the firefight with the 101 Abn. patrol.
     
  7. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi All,

    In contact with Franklin Country about getting a photo of his Headstone...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  8. JJHH

    JJHH Member

    Hi All,

    In contact with Franklin Country about getting a photo of his Headstone...

    Cheers
    Tom

    Did you receive a photo?
     
  9. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi JJHH,

    Not as yet was in contact with a local woman she said to phone them...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  10. JJHH

    JJHH Member

    Hi JJHH,

    Not as yet was in contact with a local woman she said to phone them...

    Cheers
    Tom

    Hi Tom, it would be great if you could get - and share - a photo, so that I could use it for my book.

    Please keep me updated!

    Regards,
    JJHH
    The Netherlands
     
  11. JJHH

    JJHH Member

    Any response yet?
     
  12. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi JJH,

    Not as yet I still have 2 Amercians that I need to get...
     
  13. JJHH

    JJHH Member

    Hi JJHH,

    Not as yet was in contact with a local woman she said to phone them...

    Cheers
    Tom

    Tom, would you happen to know at which cemetery Scott is buried?
     
  14. TomTAS

    TomTAS Very Senior Member

    Hi JJHH,

    There record does show a Carl Scott but wrong dod and for cemetery no I don't sorry... Thats the reason I was going to call to see if they could find him...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
  15. britman

    britman Senior Member

    Hi JJHH,

    There record does show a Carl Scott but wrong dod and for cemetery no I don't sorry... Thats the reason I was going to call to see if they could find him...

    Cheers
    Tom

    I checked the US Military Cemeteries in the US. Still couldn't find him.
     
  16. horsapassenger

    horsapassenger Senior Member

    JJHH

    If you see my post No 3 on this thread it states that he was originally buried in the US Military Cemetery, Ardennes at Neuville-en-Condroz, Belgium Plot J.10.246 but, around 1949, given a permanent resting place in his home town.
    His Personal File at the National Archives (HS9/1332/3) gives no clue to his place of birth but there is a file on him at NARA (Scott, Carl A. - [Serial Number] 15121174
    ARC Identifier 2185463 / MLR Number A1 224) - I would imagine that this would contain that sort of information.

    John
     
  17. JJHH

    JJHH Member

    Thanks all.

    I have several OSS documents from NARA regarding Scott's Jedburgh (OSS) recruitment but they don't reveal a birth date. I do know that he was from Columbus, Ohio so I've contacted several large cemeteries over there. I might get lucky. I'll keep you updated.
     
  18. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    try to contact his relatives years ago but without any succes

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  19. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    He was from Franklin County in Ohio if that helps

    Steven
     
  20. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Have contacted a Franklin County Genaelogist for help
     

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