Auschwitz, Is this true???

Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by marcus69x, Jan 26, 2007.

  1. PeterG

    PeterG Senior Member

    Yep, there are very few birds at the site of Tyburn's triple gallows, Marble Arch, London. Hangings there on an almost daily basis from 1196 to 1783, max 24 a day. On the other hand, it just might be the traffic.
     
  2. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    At least one old friend still claims that when he visited Belsen on the occasions he was in the area there were no birds or wildlife, which is odd as myself and others were with him and do not remember it that way. The last get together he was still convinced.
     
  3. red devil

    red devil Senior Member

    Trust cats. They always react when there is something in this category wrong.
     
  4. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    This quarter's "After The Battle" , a really good factual article on Auschwitz -Birkenau.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    As some of you may know from Twitter, Paul Reed is on a tour of some Holocaust locations.
    https://twitter.com/sommecourt

    I asked him if he heard any birdsong at the old camps.

    Reply.
    Yes, at every site. Watched a woodpecker at Sachsenhausen & was looking at some magpies right nr gas chambers in Auschwitz. Lots of Birdsong there.
     
  6. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    I used to work for a removal firm that kept the household goods in storage crates in hangers used at the airfield in Montrose. Birds never entered these hangers used during the war and there was never any vermin problem. Birds etc used to go in the newer built hangers at the aerodrome and damage sometimes happened to storage containers within these more modern hangers.

    A colleague went to the bothy to wash up some cups and came back to the portacabins all shaken up as something had messed up her hair from behind and it was still standing on end when she got back to the office. There was nobody else around apart from us that were already in the office that day.
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I used to work for a removal firm that kept the household goods in storage crates in hangers used at the airfield in Montrose. Birds never entered these hangers used during the war and there was never any vermin problem. Birds etc used to go in the newer built hangers at the aerodrome and damage sometimes happened to storage containers within these more modern hangers.

    A colleague went to the bothy to wash up some cups and came back to the portacabins all shaken up as something had messed up her hair from behind and it was still standing on end when she got back to the office. There was nobody else around apart from us that were already in the office that day.

    Maybe a post that would go on this thread?
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/barracks/49131-do-you-believe-not-ghosts.html
     
  8. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

    Cheers Owen, just lost another Sunday afternoon to this website ha ha. Interesting posts there though.
     
  9. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

  10. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    hi peter g.08-09-2012,10:39am.re:austwitz is it true.???.i noticed your avita is the armed forces.veterans badge.i only metion this because they(in the uk)sent me one.its still in its box.there was a letter from some defence minister telling me i had been entitled to it.i have got to say i dont know how they work it out after all these years.all the best bernar85
     
  11. freefall

    freefall Junior Member

    i visited sachsenhausen last year, and even though it was a subdued expirence. i do recall hearing birds
     
  12. johnpenny123

    johnpenny123 Junior Member

    I've heard that if you visit Auschwitz, you 'll never see any birds or other animals around as they never go anywhere near it. maybe they can sense the death that went on there or something.
    Has anybody else heard this or is sombody pulling my leg?
    Probably the latter I think.
    i went to Auschwitz 5 years ago there were birds and animals to be seen.The sombre atmosphere of the place i think makes you unaware of birdsong ect. I would recommend everyone should go there once it gives a new perspective to life
     
  13. ABP

    ABP New Member

    Went to Belsen in 1980-plenty of birds
     
  14. Vooon

    Vooon Member

    Been to Auschwitz twice, I remember seeing copious amounts of frogs in the ponds both times. The last time I saw a stork, of all things, don't quite know what to make of that at such a place.

    On a side note, I have read someone claiming that Gorillas in Rwanda don't cross over to Congo, because they know or sense what's going on over there.
     
  15. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    I don't recall hearing or seeing any birds when I visited Auschwitz but that may have been because the enormity of what had happened there totally filled my mind and I was unreceptive to everyday sounds.

    Considering how many people visit Auschwitz and that there must be some food crumbs dropped daily I'd be surprised if birds don't visit after the visitors have left.
     
  16. TriciaF

    TriciaF Junior Member

    I read recently that there is to be a Jewish Memorial Centre and religious study room near the Auschwitz camp. Student volunteers will learn there regularly, symbolising the fact that the camp didn't achieve its purpose. And as a memorial for the Jews who died there.
    Financed by 2 American businessmen.
    Mostly it's a popular idea, but a few survivors are against it, because of the trauma.
     
  17. arnhem44

    arnhem44 Member

    From what I remember in Dachau (2005) is that there are no trees or bushes in the camp or within 100 m from the camp.
    Obviously..you don t get to see or hear birds.
    And any bird at 200 m distance to the gate (so.., 500 m distance from where the barracks or museum is) won t make such loud noise that you would notice it.

    I assume the other camps neither have trees or bushes on their grounds.
     
  18. arnhem44

    arnhem44 Member

    A similar thing on the deer around the border between east & west germany.. the 2 populations refuse to cross the old border and don t mix. Even though the deer generation now could never have seen the original (electric wire) border.
     
  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Czech Republic & Germany.
    Was on the news here the other day.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27129727

    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/apr/23/czech-deer-iron-curtain-fences

    etc
     
  20. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I asked my 21 yo daughter who was going to the camps with a tour (December 2013) to look out for the birds. She sent me a text that the only birds she saw all day were "Crows".

    Surely it depends on the season as to what bird, animal life is around.
     

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