Be warned, there's some nasties out there !

Discussion in 'The Lounge Bar' started by Ron Goldstein, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I was recently the victim of a scam. I had been receiving (genuine?) error messages on my PC saying something like "Windows has discovered a fault and must close down" with the options "Send Error Report" or "Don't Send".
    After the third of these messages, I decided to send the report and duly clicked on the appropriate button.
    THE VERY NEXT DAY - I got a phone call from an (Asian) gentleman who said they understood I was having trouble with my PC and that they could fix it on-line for a fee.
    The fee duly paid, they then took control of my PC and proceeded to "clean" it. When they were finished - I was left with a blank screen and the PC would not turn on.
    Needless to say, I hied me to my local Computer Emporium and had a new hard drive installed and changed all passwords including those for my on-line banking.
    The implication is that these scammers have somehow got access to Microsoft's error reporting system.
    An expensive lesson.
    Pete
    Sorry to hear these tossers got you.
    A serious business, hope you've informed your bank/credit card supplier etc. ?
    Fake Technical Support scam phone calls continue to trap victims - OU
    Scammers Pose as Microsoft Tech Support Workers to Hijack Computers
    Microsoft considers legal action against cold call cons - Computeractive - News

    I'll say again, subscribe to the OU's Safe Computing Bulletins for some of the best info on what these arseholes are up to at the moment, and solid advice on how to clean up after them.
    http://www.safecomputing.open.ac.uk
     
  2. Vitesse

    Vitesse Senior Member

    I'll say again, subscribe to the OU's Safe Computing Bulletins for some of the best info on what these arseholes are up to at the moment, and solid advice on how to clean up after them.
    http://www.safecomputing.open.ac.uk
    Seconded. Excellent service - 6-10 emails a week as required. It also means you can turn off auto-update services for things like iTunes, QuickTime, Flash and Java (all of which can be problematic, especially on XP systems) and still never miss security updates.
     
  3. Stig O'Tracy

    Stig O'Tracy Senior Member

    My father turned 90 a few months back and as a gift my sister and I purchased him a new computer as his old computer was quite out of date. He also moved into an apartment at a seniors residence at around the same time. Shortly after moving he received a call from one of those scammers pretending to be the M$ tech who told him his computer was infected with a virus and it was attacking other computers on the internet. Anyway this a$$Ho1e managed to trick my father into doing some things on his computer that he shouldn't have but eventually Dad clued in that this was a scam and he hung up on the guy. Nevertheless some damage was done and beyond that now my father is afraid to use his computer, despite the fact that it has be wiped and reset. This scam has ruined one of the simple things that Dad used to do through the day which he enjoyed. Personally I'd love to get my hands on the joker who did. It was a very unpleasant experience for my Dad, not something that someone in their 90's should have to put up with.

    I found this response that someone made to one of these callers;

    "I had one of these infamous calls from a guy with a very heavy Indian accent. Well obviously not having anything better in life to do I played along. When he asked me to enter a url, I just pretended to type (to get the sounds) and then I screamed OH F*CK in his ears, when he asked what was wrong I said to him I've just hacked the FBI and they're tracking my computer and all my phone calls are monitored for drug activity. Needless to say, I have not been contacted again. Oh the life and times of a housewife hey?

    I'll have to remember that one.
     
  4. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    I'm sorry for your father. About that response, I find it brilliant, I shall use a variation the next time a certain religious sect comes ringing my bell :D
     
  5. kiwigeordie

    kiwigeordie Senior Member

    Hi VP. Yes, I changed everything to protect my PC and banking and personal info.
    One more important point. They gave me an Auckland telephone number but my IT guru says this was probably patched through to Delhi. So don't trust 'local' numbers if offered as proof of integrity.

    The really dumb thing is, these (or similar) people keep calling me. Don't they keep records of who they've already scammed!:mad:
    Pete
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    They probably won't keep records, too bloody careless and incompetent, or if they do they can be angling for a repeat sucker.
     
  7. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    As a possible "devouted" customer I gave this one a miss :)

    Dear LloydsTSB Online customer,

    The bank congratulates you as a devouted customer and rewards
    you with a shopping cheque of 200 pounds this christmas,

    but unfortunately we were unable to send your reward cheque due
    to a possible error your home address information.

    This might be due to either of the following reasons:

    - A recent change in your personal information .
    - Submitting invalid information during the initial sign up process.

    Consequently, we placed a temporary restriction on your account.
    We did this to protect your account from any fraudulent activity.

    Please verify your information (LINK REMOVED)

    Thank you,

    LloydsTSB Customer Service

    Ron
     
  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Attn: Owner/Manager
    The Better Business Bureau has got the above mentioned complaint from one of your clients on the subject of their dealings with you.
    The details of the consumer's concern are explained in attached document.
    Please examine this matter and let us know about your opinion.
    We kindly ask you to click here to answer this complaint.

    We look forward to your prompt response.
     
  9. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    More of the usual rubbish including the unique spelling of "discovered"


    Halifax E-mail Alert

    Dear Halifax Customer,

    We recently have discoverd that different computers have logged onto your Internet Banking account, and multiple failure security question and answer were present before the logons. We now need you to re-confirm your account information to us.

    If this is not completed by December 20, 2011, we will be forced to suspend your account indefinitely, as it may have been used for fraudulent purposes. We thank you for your cooperation in this manner.


    To confirm your Internet Banking records click on the following link:

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     
  10. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

    Wow Ron, and they're only giving the hackers a week to drain your accounts before they do something :huh:
     
  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    ah they get better

    Dear customer,

    In order to reduce the number of cases of fraud and scams, we have adopted a new security system. In this connection all your account ACH and WIRE transactions will be suspended , because your current security version is not in compliance with the new requirements.. In order to reinstate your account abilities, it is necessary that you install a special security software. You may use the link below to download and install all the necessary files.

    We apologize for causing you troubles by this measure.
    If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

    Yours faithfully,

    Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
    Security Department
     
  12. DavidW

    DavidW Well-Known Member

    Ministry of Justice do not work after 17:00 (5 o'clock) looking at our clock it was 17:45.



    My son works for the Ministry of Justice, and he does work beyond 17:00!
     
  13. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Peter is spot on with his recommendation of Cookie Cleaner and, as he points out, it's for nowt !

    The following in this mornings postbag.

    Dear Customer,

    We noticed irregular activity in your Co-operative Bank Account through
    your Card.

    For your protection, you must verify this activity before you can continue
    using our online Access.

    You can verify this using the verification reference below.

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    This instruction has been sent to all bank customers on same issued and
    is obligatory to follow.



    Kind regards
    Jayashree C
    Co-operative Internet Banking Customer Support


    Because email is not a secure form of communication, this email box is not equipped to handle replies.
    If you have any questions about your account or need assistance, please call the phone number on your statement
    or go to Contact Us at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     
  14. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    My son works for the Ministry of Justice, and he does work beyond 17:00!

    Aha! So that's him! He's the one who stays late to post fake emails! :p
     
  15. DavidW

    DavidW Well-Known Member

    Curses! Foiled again!
     
  16. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    It would appear I am missing out on a source of fun! I use AVG free with the Email filter enabled, I do not get any of these invites!
     
  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Currently lots of warnings out there regarding a phone-based scam relating to BT & other telecoms providers.
    If someone calls and tells you your line will be cut off if you don't pay a bill or 're-register' - Don't believe it! - BT & legit companies don't do this (They just send you red bills, for months, apparently :unsure:).
    Give 'em nothing, 'security validation questions' are for when you phone them, not vice-versa.

    BT Unpaid Bill Phone Scam Warning
     
  18. La-de-da-Gunner Graham

    La-de-da-Gunner Graham Senior Member

    I put this one down to English not being the author's first language but come on. Who are they going to catch with this one?

    Dear Santan Member,
    SANTANDER ONLINE SECURITY NOTIFICATION

    We noticed a violation of our services on your account, this may have occurred due to a viral infection on your computer when you last accessed our online services. For security reasons, we have temporarily

    Disabled access to your account until you complete the account restore process..


    Click here to restore your account now
    We therefore implore you to click on ACCOUNT RESTORE for a better security service
    If you choose to ignore our request, you leave us no choice but to temporarily suspend your account.

    Thank you for your patience as we work together to protect your account.


    This one is supposedly from santanderonlinestore at yourmyaccount.co.uk.

    Your my account?? I dont know if he thinks I am a Satanist or Father Christmas by the header on this one. A poor effort compared to some of the others displayed here. How I'll get money out of the account I dont have anyway is beyond me.

    Keith
     
  19. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

    This one is supposedly from santanderonlinestore at yourmyaccount.co.uk.

    Your my account?? I dont know if he thinks I am a Satanist or Father Christmas by the header on this one. A poor effort compared to some of the others displayed here. How I'll get money out of the account I dont have anyway is beyond me.

    Keith

    Keith,

    Clicking the link will infect your computer allowing him to use it as a zombie bot or it will root your machine giving him full access to any financial and other info you have on your system like stored passwords, unencrypted cookies etc.
    This would be a malware attack versus a phishing attack, although the phishing may occur after the link is clicked when you get a form to complete.

    Half a$$ed attempt, but there are daft people out there.

    Slight difference but just as nasty.
    Wayne
     
  20. La-de-da-Gunner Graham

    La-de-da-Gunner Graham Senior Member

    Wary though I am, I somehow fell for it once not that long ago, although I dont know how. The result was that it used my email address to send all my contacts various email about how I had purchased laptops, shoes, etc from a particular site (which I've never used nor heard of). One of my friends recognised what was happening and told me. I emailed most of my contacts (some had changed their email addresses ages ago and didnt use the one in the contacts list) and told them it wasn't me. I changed my password and security question and the problem was solved. In one sense I was lucky that it was just an annoying commercial thing and nothing horribly malicious. However I dont know what Tesco, West Midlands Police and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre made of it.

    One bitten, definitely twice shy.

    Keith
     

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