Beret Badge & help with service records

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by eamon crawley, May 23, 2020.

  1. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    do cap badges stay same in ww2 after training then sent to QRR then later to Y/royal marines, then Gordons, then RA
     
  2. ceolredmonger

    ceolredmonger Member

    The tendency was to have the badge of the unit that your records are lodged with - transferring usually meant a change. 'Attached' troops - such as signallers with fighting units - would keep their Royal Sigs. cap badge when all other badges were of the unit. Some units which changed role had older members wear the original badge at the OCs discretion, whilst technically they should have the new (eg. 9 DWR became 146 RAC).
     
  3. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The odd one out there is the Royal Marines. That would be a change of service as the RM are part of the Royal Navy - he's gone Army to Navy then back to Army.

    Did you mean Commandos, which were originally formed within the Army (who, incidentally, did wear their parent regiment/corps badge on the green beret)? RM Commandos were formed later on when there was a bit of a surplus of Marines.

    Bear in mind that the units you've listed are unlikely to have been wearing berets in that period, their use was quite restricted.
     
  4. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    If transferred the cap badge would change . If temporarily attached , then no. And as said , most units had fs caps later replaced by the gs cap , which is a bit beret like but is in reality , a tam without the bobble
     
  5. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Talking of attachments, another option is that he was a tradesman, say REME or RAOC, that were routinely attached to other units, eg a fitter or boot/shoemaker. If you can post his service record or further information, someone may be able to tell you more.
     
  6. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

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    struggling to upload due to files too big or lack of knowledge on how to use
     
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  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    GSC is General Service Corps.
    Few threads & mentions of them on the forum.
    Looking at that I would say - Yes , his cap badge would change for each Corps/Regiment he was in.
     
  8. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    See the Marines have vanished. They were confusing.
     
  9. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    actually i couldn't upload to ref to the marines as the file is too big
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Use a free online image re-sizer.
    Or if on phone resize image in Studio.
    Or on laptop take a screen snap.
     
  11. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    Why does the part of the service record shown come from the Royal Signals record office?
     
  12. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    my father continued after the war full time including germany and kenya till 1960s in the royal signals
     
  13. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    below is screenshot
     

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  14. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    actually apart from the cap badge issue which ones to collect(to pass to grandson) along with medals was trying to find where he was lost in europe (posted missing) pow as all the records i have acquired from mod recently only reference the question and dates but not why or where
     
  15. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    Difficult to see when he could have squeezed them in
     
  16. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    He was posted to “Y/Royal Marines” (whatever that means) for just over two weeks on the X1 List. X1 means Officers & ORs posted or permanently attached to a formation HQ or extra-Regimental unit.

    Richard
     
  17. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The meat of his service is with 1/6 Queens - he was a proper 7th Armoured Division Desert Rat.
    As the division landed in Normandy just behind the assault forces, it looks as though he remained behind for the best part of a month, presumably as a reinforcement. At the end of November 1944, the all-Queens 131st Brigade began a reorganisation with only 1/5 Queens staying on. 1/6 and 1/7 Queens took their longest serving veterans back to the UK under the wings of 50 Division while the remainder were used as reinforcements for other units.
     
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  18. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    i have attached a couple more by way of info,
     

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  19. eamon crawley

    eamon crawley Member

    last one, let me thank all those who have responded ,it is really appreciated, regarding the question of pow i have no doubt ,because the family were told he was missing and he used to keep a wooden tag with a number on (not stalag) though
     

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