Bren or BAR.

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by 4th wilts, Oct 28, 2007.

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Bren or B.A.R. ?

  1. Bren Gun

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  2. Browning Automatic Rifle

    75 vote(s)
    84.3%
  1. ozjohn39

    ozjohn39 Senior Member

    Capt S.

    "The British Army has long emphasised the value of accuracy of firepower, rather than the sheer volume or weight of lead in the air,

    I think the Americans call that "Peace through superior firepower"

    or,

    "Never use 10 bullets if you can use 500".

    John

    16043
     
  2. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    I believe that that in contemporary demotic, this man is dual-wielding:

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I think that may have just become my new 'Best Bren image', and there's quite a list.
     
  4. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Great picture.
    I have never seen Brens with drums, how many rounds do they hold?
    I like the idea, you can have one firing while someone else is reloading the other.

    regard

    Robert
     
  5. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I think that may have just become my new 'Best Bren image', and there's quite a list.[/QUOTE]

    Ditto to that VP.
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Think the 100rd Bren drums are mentioned earlier on this thread somewhere.
    They've certainly cropped up once or twice in other threads, but are definitely not something you often see.

    Perhaps confirmed by the fact someone (myself included!) will often go 'what are they?' when they do appear.
    If my own experience means anything, You'll now never look at a picture of a Lewis or Vickers K without double-checking. ;)
     
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  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    In the film siege of Jadotville the Irish sniper loaded a single round and shot the mine manager with the Bren
     
  8. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    and there are many to choose from: ronnie.jpg bren.jpg Private H_1.jpg
     
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  9. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Those two will be hard to top

    EDIT:

    Sean and the babe, I mean
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    No digitally crayoned-over picture will ever be in my favourite images!
    bren_forest.jpg
     
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    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  12. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Sean?
    Connery you mean? Not him.
     
  13. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Adam,
    For a guy who deals in tech you have a very traditional, old fashioned streak in you. Some might even say curmudgeon :pipe:
    All a matter of taste.
    I don't like all colourized pics but I really do like this one in particular. It makes him more real, captures his youth and the details jump out with the colour.
     
  14. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

  15. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    ....Or the typical number of stoppages firing a drum that has been loaded to 100 rounds and left next to the AA mount for which it was intended.
     
  16. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    My mistake. Looks just like him in The Longest Day though, doesn't he?
    I like that one even more now.
     
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  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    You have been here before, haven't you?
    It's just I'm sure I've seen you around quite a bit. :unsure:

    I like the way this thread is technically about two light machine guns, but we do have a tendency to drift Bren-wards.
    I suppose it's another icon of commonwealth forces, in the same place that the .30cal really fits into US WW2 military iconography over and above the BAR.

    A slight redress then.
    That shouty Ermery chap compares the two, shoutily. (Think we've had it here before, but what the hell. Bit more BAR needed).
     
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  18. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Judging solely from his (admittedly) non-professional attempts at reloading, I'd say the fact that the Bren magazine was loaded from the top was a big advantage over the B.A.R. for speed and handling.
     
  19. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    For most of us in North America, Kirby brought our first and most lasting image of the BAR. Although I always wondered why they assigned that heavy brute to the smallest guy.

    kirby.jpg

     
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  20. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Pte. Goddard is a real guy from Montreal, with the Perth Regiment. Photo is from April 1945, in Holland.
    5th Cdn Arm Div
     
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