BST CEST - UK time, German time, Belgian time - general confusion!

Discussion in 'General' started by skimmod, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Hello All,
    I'm currently working on research on an action around Ypres 1940 and I'm having a bit of a brain fog with timings. - hoping you can help!

    Am I right in thinking the following:

    BEF war diaries would be on BST
    Local Belgian resources would be on CEST (+1)
    German war diaries and account would be on CEST (+1)

    is this right?
    cheers
    IAin
     
  2. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    Hello
    I don't know for sure the time used in BEF diaries but

    Steve Coates: PRO Readers' Guide No. 8 - RAF Records

    During the war, local time in the UK varied from GMT(Greenwich mean Time) to BST (British Summer Time) to BDST (British Double Summer Time).

    BST = GMT + 1 hour
    BDST = GMT + 2 hours

    UK time varied as follows from –

    16/4/39 - BST
    19/11/39 - GMT
    25/2/40 - BST
    4/5/41 - BDST
    10/8/41 - BST
    5/4/42 - BDST
    9/8/42 - BST
    4/4/43 - BDST
    15/8/43 - BST
    2/4/44 - BDST
    17/9/44 - BST
    2/4/45 - BDST
    15/7/45 - BST
    7/10/45 - GMT

    The Germans used CET (Central European Time) and GST (German Summer Time)

    CET = GMT + 1 hour
    GST = GMT + 2 hours

    German time varied as follows –
    To
    1/4/40 - CET
    From
    1/4/40 - GST
    2/11/42 - CET
    29/3/43 - GST
    4/10/43 - CET
    3/4/44 - GST
    2/10/44 - CET
    2/4/45 - GST
    18/11/45- CET
     
  3. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    thanks Juha,
    so the timings in the German letters I have from May 27th 1940 would have been GST? is this right?
     
  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I would have assumed that the BEF used the same 'local' time zone as the French to whom they were subordinate.
    The best evidence might be a time zone identifier letter on times in orders, but that might be more likely in the higher formation war diaries.
    Actually, have a search in the Hyperwar online France and Flanders - the official history ought to clarify that sort of thing.
     
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  5. Juha

    Juha Junior Member

    Hello Skimmod
    Yes, IMHO should have been.

    Juha
     
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  6. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    thanks.
     

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