Burma Newsreel made for UK families

Discussion in 'Burma & India' started by Torq2, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Hi,

    This is a bit of a long shot, but I am looking for information about some newsreels which were made by I think the government, for the families of serving troops in Burma.

    My wifes grandfather served in the east, and before he went off to fight, he and his unit were filmed. The familes of these men were then invited to a special screening in a cinema in Curzon St.

    The film consisted of the troops saying hello to their families into the camera. I am not sure just how many of these films were made, or even who made them. It could be that they were destroyed after screening.

    The year was probably 1942, after Pearl Harbour of course but while the troops were still in Burma.

    Idealy I would like to obtain a copy of the film, but I would be grateful for any information.

    Regards
     
  2. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Hi Torq2,

    Welcome to the forum. That is a very interesting first post! I have not heard of these films before, but sincerely hope they do still exist.

    What regiment was your wife's Grandfather with, we may be able to give some information about his time in India/Burma?

    My Grandfather was with the 13th Kings Liverpool's, he went on to become an original Chindit in October 1942, having been sent out to perform local garrison duties in India beforehand. I have been able to trace his journey while out in the Far East, all the way from landing in Bombay to his death in Rangoon Jail in June 1943.

    Good luck with your quest.

    Bamboo.
     
  3. Pete Keane

    Pete Keane Senior Member

    It may be worth searching 'pathe newsreels' or similar on Google - I've seen a few links here from time to time.

    Let me know if you have any success, would be interested as well.

    Pete
     
  4. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Thanks Bamboo,

    I will try to find out his regiment. He was a London taxi driver, and did drive Mountbatten for a brief while, fortunately he was not the famous cabby who was killed doing this. I believe that Mountbatten always used London taxi drivers to drive him.

    Regards
     
  5. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Thanks Pete,

    I did look at Pathe News, but couldn't find anything. If I do track these films done, I will of course post the link.

    Regards
     
  6. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Have a try contacting the Imperial War Museum. Most of the Government's official photography and movies end up at the IWM.

    Lee
     
  7. WhiskeyGolf

    WhiskeyGolf Senior Member

    Hi Torq2
    My Uncle was with 292 Squadron ASR in Burma, and there are documents that state they flew the Air Ministry camera crews around - perhaps you could try there?
    Cheers
    Wendy
     
  8. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Thanks Wendy,

    I never thought of trying to find the camera crew. I'll give it a try.


    Regards Bob
     
  9. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Hello Bamboo,

    I have now found out a bit more about these films. They are a series called, "Calling Blighty", and were made in response to the claim that the troops in Burma were the forgotten army. There appears to have been hundreds made, and were screened all over the UK. The Imperial War Museum hold some, and there are a few scattered over the internet, see below. Depending where you are from seems to affect your chances of finding your relation.

    http://www.macearchive.org/Media.html?Title=621#

    I have asked my mother-in-law which regiment her father was in, and she said the Royal Artilliary 14th army, however, after searching the internet, I am a bit confused. It appears that the 14th army was a general term for a collection of regiments, I may be wrong. When I look on artilliary sites, they don't seem to mention the 14th army. I have concluded from this, that he must have been in a unit which was part of the 14th army. Can you shed any light on this?

    Regards Bob
     
  10. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Hi Bob,

    Thanks for the info on the newsreels, that is very interesting. I doubt my Grandfather would have been in filmed in such a way, because of the nature of his units intended mission. But they would be wonderful to look at anyway.

    Now, Royal Artillery is not my strong point, but you are right in thinking that he must have formed part of the 14th Army as a whole. There would have been many different section units of Artillery with the 14th Army, so we do need a little more information.

    Do you hold his service records? If not, it is fairly straight forward to attempt to get them. The only problem is I think you would need to know his Army service number.

    Let me know if you want to try this route and I'll dig out the address details.

    Bamboo.
     
  11. Torq2

    Torq2 Junior Member

    Hi Bamboo,

    I was thinking of trying to get his service record, however, I didn't realise I needed his number, this will be impossible to get I think. I did find a site which had an application form, but there was a section for his national assurance number, again I don't have this.

    It seemed that like so many others, he didn't talk about his time in the army, and there wasn't any kind of paperwork when he passed away.


    Regards Bob
     
  12. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Bob,

    I have asked on the forum and it may be possible to proceed with a request using a date of birth as first detail?

    Here is the address and details of the Army Service Records office:

    service records army

    Army Personnel Centre,
    Historical Disclosures,
    Mail Point 555,
    Kentigern House,
    65 Brown Street,
    Glasgow,
    G2 8EX

    Hope it will be of some use eventually?

    Bamboo.
     
  13. Raynor

    Raynor Junior Member

    Hi Torq2, Bob is correct about the 14th army being a collective of regiments. My father was in Burma with 2nd Dorset Regt. 14th army. Hope this helps.
    Regards Raynor.
     
  14. Gibbo

    Gibbo Senior Member

    There was an extract from one of the films of British soldiers in Burma sending messages to their families at home in Michael Woods's recent BBC series, The History of England. The series told the history of England through the story of one village, Kibworth in Leicestershire, so the men featured were from the Leicesters.
     
  15. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    The Imperial War Museum holds many WWII Service made films, and it also worth looking at the collection of the British Film Institute and the Army Kinema Corporation (the latter may go by another name - I can recall searching a catalogue of theirs for films when I was still in the Army in the 1970s
     
  16. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

  17. geoffmsenior

    geoffmsenior New Member

    The North West Film Archive in Manchester holds 25 of these films featuring men from the Lancashire and Greater Manchester areas. Work is now underway on an project called A Message Home to make the available to view on line at http://www.nwfa.mmu.ac.uk/blighty/index.php and will see a new Channel 4 documentary broadcast in early 2016. See the trailer for that here now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoI3bnp30I
    Thanks
     
  18. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

  19. Shiny 9th

    Shiny 9th Member

    The Calling Blighty Project currently working on men from Brighton who were filmed, and possibly served with 9th Royal Sussex. They plan to show the film in Brighton next month. You can see some of the film online. I have posted more info on another page here as there are several on this subject.
     
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    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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