Can anyone please identify this location?

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  1. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Can anyone please identify this location? I assume that there has been a visit to a cemetery - war memorial by a group of heavily decorated veterans.

    The only two facts that I know are that one of the officers in the photograph was called Newbury and that he spent many years in Darjeeling. I have checked the CWGC for cemeteries and memorials in what was British India and can see no images that look anything like the building in the photograph. The mountains in the back ground could well be the Himalayas but that is not a given. Ford 020.JPG
     

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  2. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Cassino War Cemetery opening in 1956 perhaps ? The structure is the same? The officer in the centre is Earl Alexander I will post a news report when I can find it.

    Kyle
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    Photo from Roll of Honour .com
     
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  3. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Brilliant, I think that you have cracked it.
     
  4. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Newspaper 1956 pdf
     

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  5. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Well spotted Kyle.:salut:
     
  6. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

     
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  7. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Kyle & Richard,

    many thanks for your help which has once again demonstrated the power of this wonderful forum.

    I now have to work out who Newbury was and, if there was an Indian connection, whether he served with the 4th or 8th Indian Divisions.

    Simon
     
  8. bexley84

    bexley84 Well-Known Member

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  9. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    Many thanks but sadly not him as he subsequently died of wounds.

    Casualty Details
     
  10. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    ... but could the Newbury refer to his father?
    NEWBURY, DAVID PEIRSON. Rank: Lieutenant. Service No: 255206. Date of Death: 17/06/1944. Age: 21.
    Regiment/Service: Royal Armoured Corps 17th/21st Lancers Awards: M C
    Grave Reference: IX, F, 9. Cemetery: ASSISI WAR CEMETERY.
    Additional Information: Son of Brigadier T. G. Newbury, M.C., and Dorothy Newbury, of Fleet, Hampshire.
     
  11. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    What I have from the back of the photograph is the name Mrs Newbury but if the picture framer wrote what he heard it might be a misspelling. The 1944 Army List has officers called Newberry, Newbery and Newbury and I have not been able to check the Indian Army lists. There also may be a Bristol connection.
     

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  12. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    I had already looked at Thomas Grindall Newbury as a candidate and found that he died in 1945.
     
  13. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Is the signature , Mrs Newbury, definitely associated with one of those in the photograph ? I only ask because of your comment regarding a mis-spelled name? Could `Mrs Newbury` be a relative of someone commemorated on the Cassino Memorial which was being unveiled ? There`s this lad `Newberry` commemorated there;-

    JAMES HERBERT NEWBERRY,

    Rank: Private
    Service No:5726350
    Date of Death:12/05/1944
    Age:23
    Regiment/Service:Somerset Light Infantry 2nd Bn.
    Grave Reference: VIII. J. 13.
    Cemetery: CASSINO WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information:Husband of Winifred Ada Newberry, of Whitstable, Kent.

    Just thinking out aloud I know it states `of Whitstable,Kent ` but according to the Army Roll of Honour he was born in Dorset ,50 miles? from Bristol.

    Kyle
     
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  14. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    My gut feeling is that 'Newbury' refers to someone in the photograph and Mrs Newbury took the photograph into the shop for framing. If Mrs Newbury was the man's wife it should be possible to work out who Mr Newbury was. If Mrs Newbury was his housekeeper I have reached a dead end. The photograph came from someone who does house clearances.
     
  15. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    I think that second in from the right is Maj Gen Dudley Russell GOC 8 Ind Div.

    Regards

    Frank
     
  16. High Wood

    High Wood Well-Known Member

    tiger11.jpg Many thanks, that would seem to provide another link with India.
     
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  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Interesting - following on from Mr Jinks post I dug a little deeper and found:

    Herbert John Newberry
    1921–1944
    BIRTH SEP 1921 • Wareham, Wiltshire
    DEATH 1944 • Mount Cassino

    But it must be added that there is an alteration to the record as he is shown as being born in Wareham, and Ancestry seem to have transcribed that incorrectly (as usual) to Wiltshire when in fact it is in Devon which fits the other info from the Roll of Honour

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Herbert J Newberry
    Mother's Maiden Surname: Edmonds
    Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
    Registration district: Wareham
    Inferred County: Wiltshire
    [Dorset]

    Volume Number: 5a
    Page Number: 473

    I also note that the forenames are reversed and John has become James

    Marriage details:
    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: Herbert J Newberry
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1942
    Registration district: Bridge
    Inferred County: Kent

    Spouse: Winifred A Allen
    Volume Number: 2a
    Page Number: 3817

    Its also possible that his wife Winifred Ada Newberry re married
    Name: Winifred A Newberry
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1956
    Registration district: Bridge
    Inferred County: Kent

    Spouse: Raymond Wood
    Volume Number: 5b
    Page Number: 137


    TD
     

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