Captain Robert Frederick Inglis, 1st/9th Jat Regiment

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  1. Ceri Stennett

    Ceri Stennett Active Member

    I am looking for some help with the circumstances surrounding the death of Captain Robert Frederick Inglis, 1st Royal Battalion, 9th Jat Regiment. He died on 28th July 1941 and was buried at Abbottabad, Bengal, India.

    I am compiling a book on the men who fell in the Second World War from my village - Whitchurch - in Cardiff, South Wales and he is named on the local War Memorial.

    He was born in Willesden, Middlesex in 1916, but the family was living in Cardiff in 1939. I suspect that his death was due to accident or illness, but have not been able to find anything specific through the internet so far.

    Can anyone help please? Many thanks, Ceri.

    Casualty Details | CWGC
    CAPTAIN ROBERT FREDERICK INGLIS
    Regiment & Unit: 9th Jat Regiment, 1st Royal Bn.
    Date of Death: Died 28 July 1941
    Buried or commemorated at KARACHI WAR CEMETERY
    Grave Reference: 4. D. 1.
    Location: Pakistan
    Country of Service: Indian
    Additional Info: Son of Maj. R. A. H. Inglis and Mrs. E. G. Inglis, of Whitchurch, Glamorgan.
     
  2. Rothy

    Rothy Well-Known Member

    Hi Ceri,

    What a fascinating project.

    I can't give any positive information but I can rule out the war diary for 1941 as a potential source - it does not begin until 18th October.

    Steve
     
  3. Ceri Stennett

    Ceri Stennett Active Member

    Thanks for the tip Steve, much appreciated.

    Ceri.
     
  4. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

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  6. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Gloucestershire Echo, December 11, 1941
    Inglis.jpg
     
  7. Ceri Stennett

    Ceri Stennett Active Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for this. The Barry at War History Group takes random Welsh Second World War casualties and posts them - there is no particular relevance to the area or individuals as such.

    Cheers,

    Ceri.
     
  8. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Died of a fractured skull.
    First name(s) Robert Frederick
    Last name Inglis
    Death date 27 Jul 1941
    Death year 1941
    Burial date 28 Jul 1941
    Place Abbottabad
    Presidency Bengal
    Archive
    The British Library
    Archive Reference N-1-615
    Folio -
    Page 242
    Catalogue Description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
    Record set British India Office Deaths & Burials
     
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  9. Ceri Stennett

    Ceri Stennett Active Member

    Now that is a very handy find.

    Thanks so much.

    Ceri.
     
  10. idler

    idler GeneralList

    From their history: June-July 1941, 1/9 Jat were digging a defence line at Manduri Camp, 14 miles NW of Thal before returning to Wah in August.

    There's no mention of Inglis by name. Of course, it's possible that he may have been serving away from the battalion at the time of his death.
     
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  11. Ceri Stennett

    Ceri Stennett Active Member

    Some more very useful info.

    Cheers,

    Ceri.
     
  12. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Tony56,

    Surely this entry has a glaring mistake:
    Abbottabad is a very long way from the Bengal Presidency. It is in what was the North West Frontier Province? See map etc: Abbottabad - Wikipedia

    Abbottabad had been a military town for sometime and is briefly given as:
    Link: Pakistan Military Academy - Wikipedia

    After 1947 there was consolidation of British war graves, hence the move from Abbottabad to Karachi. CWGC states:
    From: Cemetery Details | CWGC

    If Captain Inglis had been injured near Thal (a frontier garrison for a brigade pre-1939) I would expect him to be treated there or at Peshawar, a bigger garrison. So was he based at Abbottabad?
     
  13. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    David, Afraid that I am no expert on the political map of India although this does seem indicate that the Bengal Presidency extended to the North West Frontier at that time.
    Beginners' Guide - FIBIwiki
    North West Frontier Province - FIBIwiki
    FullDisplay

    Whatever its political location, I can confirm that the burial return does show that Inglis was buried at Abbottabad the day after he died of a fractured skull, service by the Chaplain Leonard Frederick Geddes. The short period between death and burial would seem to indicate that he was in, or very nearby, Abbottabad, at the time.
     
  14. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Tony56,
    Yes at one stage the Bengal Presidency did cover northern India as far west as the Punjab, a Wiki map shows this was the situation in 1858 and by 1931 it had shrunk back to eastern India. See: Bengal Presidency - Wikipedia
    A curious bureaucratic status.
     
  15. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Ceri, note that the link to the 'indiafamily.bl.uk' site in my post #13 above includes a biography for your man, screen print here:
    Inglis.jpg
     
  16. Maureene

    Maureene Well-Known Member

    The 1931 Map in the Wikipedia article is titled Bengal Province, which is a different entity to the Bengal Presidency.
     

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