Captured Ammo and equipment

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by raf, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    On the Kubel being painted, are those normal German tires or Allied tires?

    I doubt they would go to that much trouble -Paint and first works is as far as I would go. Anything else it would end up in a ditch.
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  3. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    If i remember rightly Sapper has told us that though an excellent design the MP40 was not a wise choice as a captured weapon, it's sound could attract intense fire from your own side. I assume the same stands for many captured smallarms.

    True enough, although I've read many accounts of British troops getting their hands on one and keeping it for the rest of the campaign, both in Italy and Europe.

    The one good point about using captured weapons is how they're supplied by the enemies war production.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  5. barbed wire

    barbed wire Junior Member

  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Kind of captured--German using Italian, Aug '44.

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  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

  9. Steiner123

    Steiner123 Junior Member

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    A captured French platform I believe?

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    Even Rommel was interested in it.

    Im prety sure that that a S307(f) Vielfachwerfer for the 21st Panzer in Normandy one of Rommels Funnyes.
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Hi steiner, and welcome aboard to another vehicle-spotter :D.

    I'm still reasonably content it's a 303, based on Somua's MCL5/6 (or MSCL), rather than the 307, based on the MCG. Though as it was such a heavy conversion applied to both types (eliminating all bodywork) and the running gear is near identical on both it's hard to be absolutely certain.

    One clue is the small plates between the bogie wheels, they look more like certain MCL variants or MSCL than the MCG, which seems to have always had circular mountings there rather than the flat, square plates. A confusing business though.

    Edit: - The more I look, and staring at an MSCL6 picture through a magnifying glass, I think it's based on one of them - The plate thing, idler style, and a lack of rivets/bolts along the suspension beam seem to point in that direction.
     
  11. Bernhart

    Bernhart Member

    remember a story a vet told me how they had found some german rifles, (this is in normandy) he talked of shooting at rats in the dump and they attracted alot of attention, from artillery, regular forces...

    He was a pilot with 439 squadron
     
  12. beeza

    beeza Senior Member

    As the calibers of most enemy weapons were different from allied ones then couldn't
    the need to retrain personnel in the use of those weapons etc it was easier to
    destroy any captured weapons
    David
     
  13. Johnny Curedents

    Johnny Curedents Junior Member

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    Headlines: France, parade of the Milice Francaise Specially information: France. - Parade of members of the Milice Francaise with geschultertem machine gun; PK KBZ WHETHER west
    Look carefully and you will see that the miliciens in the second row are carrying Lee-Enfields. Many in the Milice carried weapons originally intended for the Resistance but intercepted, Sten guns, Enfields, Smith and Wesson K.38/200 pistols, etc.
     
  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Hi

    I vaguely remembered owning a Jerry rifle and some ammo for a brief while so I did a bit of searching in my personal diary and found these two entries:

    Monday 16th. April 1945
    Early morning move. Watched eytie squad burying some tedeschi dead. Found Jerry rifle & ammo in the wood. Cpl.Boreman fixing the charging engine.


    Sunday 22nd. April 1945
    Woke to find mortar crew right at my head in yard right in front of casa. Rations came up with T.R's kit (?). More prisoners. Slung my 'spare' rifle. Moved into fields.




    I see that there was only a six day gap between finding the rifle and ditching it and I can't even remember firing it :)
     
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  16. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    My Dad's regiment were based in Wilhelmshaven from June 1945 and 2 men were killed as a result of disposing of enemy ammunition. The entry from 26 July 1945 states and I quote.

    "One Sjt and one O/R killed when on duty as guard to dumping of ammunition from barges into the sea. Barge on which they were on duty was blown up."

    Both commemorated on the Brookwood Memorial.:poppy:
     
  17. James Daly

    James Daly Senior Member

    I can recall my Arnhem veteran Grandad saying that he thought a lot of the German weapons and thought that overall they were better than the British equivalents. I'm not sure what experience he based this on and sadly he's no longer around for me to ask.
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Not sure who they belong to so no credit given.

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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