This was posted on WW2F: Churchill had a profound hatered of Australia and Australians he considered us convict sleaze. If true, then this is absolute news to me. Is this correct or the is the poster blowing smoke up our collective buttocks? Does anyone have anything concrete to support or counteract this statement?
Some bias as it's the Churchill centre, but interesting nonetheless: Riddles, Mysteries, Enigmas - The Churchill Centre And this comment from this page: Dispatch Box - The Churchill Centre WSC ON THE AUSSIES Re Time Inc.'s attempt to cite an unfavourable Churchill remark about the Australians ("Around and About," FH 107), I am having a good deal of trouble finding an anti-Australian quote anywhere in the Churchill canon, possibly because no such comment was made, even in private. Positive comments, however, are easy to find. For example, On 11 November 1914, before Time was around or the USA was even at war, The Times (London) published this message from Churchill to the men aboard H.M.A.S. Sydney (and to the Commonwealth Navy Board) on their destruction of the German warship Emden: "Warmest congratulations on the brilliant entry of the Australian Navy into the war, and the signal service rendered to the Allied cause and to peaceful commerce by the destruction of the Emden." On 14 September 1940, the year for which Time first recognized Churchill as Man of the Year, The Times published the following tribute to the Aussies sent to Menzies at the moment of the first anniversary of the outbreak of the War: "In the Australians of 1940 the valour of their fathers lives again. The thrilling exploits of your sailors in the Mediterranean and of your airmen round these shores give a foretaste of what the enemy may expect when all arms of the Australian Forces get the chance they are so eagerly awaiting. With the aid of such men we shall go on unflinchingly until the final victory is won." RON COHEN, OTTAWA, ONT., CANADA Those sections I put in bold are hardly derogatory are they. There's a lot more if you search under 'Australia' & 'Australians' there, I wonder if the belief comes from Churchill's responsibility for the Dardanelles/Gallipoli business in WW1? Cheers, Adam.
Its a big load of bollocks and some people use this falsehood to justify their hatred of the great man.
my nan hated the man,she reckoned bevan was the real leader,baldy was always going off on the piss drinking brandy in the white house.those are her words not mine.yours very sincerely,lee
This was posted on WW2F: If true, then this is absolute news to me. Is this correct or the is the poster blowing smoke up our collective buttocks? Does anyone have anything concrete to support or counteract this statement? If this was posted on WW2 forums, I would be asking that poster to support his claims with factual proof and sources of this "profound hatred". I certainly do not believe we are required to find evidence that Churchill didn't. Churchill may have "disliked" the colonial Australians for their irreverent behaviour towards authority however he had many friends there.
If this was posted on WW2 forums, I would be asking that poster to support his claims with factual proof and sources of this "profound hatred". I certainly do not believe we are required to find evidence that Churchill didn't. Churchill may have "disliked" the colonial Australians for their irreverent behaviour towards authority however he had many friends there. I asked him to provide verifiable evidence, so far all he has produced is...more opinion. Adam has added his welcomed insights to the discussion. As far as irreverant behavior toward authority, were not US troops saddled with a similar reputation? If he was going to have a hatred for colonials, would he have not started with the US, after all, we've fought two wars with Britain and the Aussies, none. I fail to see how WSC could dislike the Aussies after the bravery and skill shown in their many campaigns. Thanks to all who have commented.
I asked him to provide verifiable evidence, so far all he has produced is...more opinion. Adam has added his welcomed insights to the discussion. As far as irreverant behavior toward authority, were not US troops saddled with a similar reputation? If he was going to have a hatred for colonials, would he have not started with the US, after all, we've fought two wars with Britain and the Aussies, none. ??? I thought that he wasAmerican ! (well half at least !) When you say "fought two wars with Britain", I assume you mean "against" ? To be honest, Churchill probably didn't have a lot of time for anyone outside of his social class.
??? I thought that he wasAmerican ! (well half at least !) When you say "fought two wars with Britain", I assume you mean "against" ? To be honest, Churchill probably didn't have a lot of time for anyone outside of his social class. Yes, his ancestory was half American, but then, what Brit worth half his salt would admit to that in public:p I was using "with" as defined in section 11 on this page: Definitions of the word "with" 11.against, as in opposition or competition: He fought with his brother over the inheritance. There are some variances in word usage between US and British English. I can't argue with you over his social class interactions.
I asked him to provide verifiable evidence, so far all he has produced is...more opinion. Adam has added his welcomed insights to the discussion. As far as irreverent behavior toward authority, were not US troops saddled with a similar reputation? If he was going to have a hatred for colonials, would he have not started with the US, after all, we've fought two wars with Britain and the Aussies, none. I fail to see how WSC could dislike the Aussies after the bravery and skill shown in their many campaigns. Thanks to all who have commented. My father thought Churchill a war monger and he (Churchill) was happy to put the "Colonials" in harm's way however my father also had respect for him. Much of the dislike of Churchill as touched on previously, did go back to WW1. Still, the original poster should take his hand of his "wee" because he must be a w**ker or just looking for a reaction!
Spidge, I can see that you must have respect for him, judging by the good quote in your sig. "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)
