Civilians killed and wounded in London - test finished

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Pete Wood, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. CTNana

    CTNana Member

    Just outside the Metropolitan Police Area. Sorry. Two other Simister casualties are mentioned, from Ashville Road E11.

    So is the same true of East Finchley then?

    I cannot imagine how much work this project has entailed! Well actually I can and I'm amazed.
     
  2. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    So is the same true of East Finchley then?

    I cannot imagine how much work this project has entailed! Well actually I can and I'm amazed.

    East Finchley is covered (well there are plenty of casualties whose address is given as such anyway). The London Area (5) changed boundaries during the war, so there are some strange hits (and misses).
     
  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    hello Pete

    Could you please assist with the below

    013 KEMPSON AG - - 14/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    014 KEMPSON IM - - 24/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD

    regards
    Clive
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Pete sorry,if you dont mind again

    001 JENNER HL - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    002 JENNER ME - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    003 JENNER F - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    004 SAGE ERW - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    005 SAGE E - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    006 SAGE G - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD

    regards
    Clive
     
  5. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Hello Pete,

    Could you check these two for me, please.

    Sheila Lilian Cox
    Dilys Bessie Huxter

    Cheers

    Nick
     
  6. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA

    Albert Sydney Dubber, aged 61, of 18 Earlsthorpe Road SE26. The deceased was taken to Verdant Lane Mortuary, SE6.

    Gertrude Ada Facer, aged 29, of the same address, also taken to the same mortuary.

    Many others injured and killed in houses adjoining this property (number 14, 16, 20 etc).

    It was a Father and daughter. The rest of the family including My Sister-in-law's Mother had gone to the cinema about half an hour earlier. Gertrude did not feel well apparently and it cost her life with that of her Father. An air raid occurred, which as you say, killed and injured others in the same road. Cheers for that Pete.
     
  7. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    hello Pete

    Could you please assist with the below

    013 KEMPSON AG - - 14/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    014 KEMPSON IM - - 24/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD

    regards
    Clive

    Ivy May Kempson - injuries to face - aged 45, of 36 Lascelles Avenue, treated at Harrow and Wealdstone Hospital

    Albert George Kempson - dead - taken to same hospital (suggesting he died en route) and not a mortuary; same address.
     
  8. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    Pete sorry,if you dont mind again

    001 JENNER HL - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    002 JENNER ME - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    003 JENNER F - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    004 SAGE ERW - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    005 SAGE E - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    006 SAGE G - - 21/06/1944 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD

    regards
    Clive



    Leah Jenner, aged 60, 104 Parkside Way, Harrow. Deceased taken to Uxbridge Road Mortuary, Harrow Weald

    Frank Jenner, aged 53, same as above

    Margaret Jenner, aged 23, same as above

    Evelyn Sage, aged 44, 106 Parkside Way, Harrow. Deceased taken to Uxbridge Road Mortuary, Harrow Weald

    Geoffrey Sage, aged 8, same as above

    Ernest Sage, aged 46, same as above
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Pete many thanks


    regards
    Clive
     
  10. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    Hello Pete,

    Could you check these two for me, please.

    Sheila Lilian Cox
    Dilys Bessie Huxter

    Cheers

    Nick


    Richard William Coleman, 34 Micklethwaite Road, aged 59, treated for burns at Fulham Hospital SW6

    Francis Marie Coleman, 34 Micklethwaite Road, aged 57, treated for burns at Fulham Hospital SW6

    Joyce Irene Coleman, 34 Micklethwaite Road, aged 21, treated for burns at Fulham Hospital SW6

    Colin Coleman, 34 Micklethwaite Road, aged 1, dead and taken to Fulham Hospital SW6

    Elsie Osgood, 34 Micklethwaite Road, aged 59, treated for lacerations at Fulham Hospital SW6

    Sheila Cox, aged 4, burns, as above


    Dilys Bessie Huxter, 29 Alford Road, SW8, presumed dead (no body)
    Michael Walter J Huxter, 29 Alford Road, SW8, presumed dead (no body)
    Percy William C Huxter, 29 Alford Road, SW8, presumed dead (no body)
    Peter Longshaw L, 29 Alford Road, SW8, presumed dead (no body)
     
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  11. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    Okay. I think the database has proved itself. It certainly needs to be used with other resources - Geoff's Search Engine, CWGC and Fire Brigade Records etc.

    I am no longer taking enquiries, unless it is urgently required. I am busy at work, and need to finish the other databases.

    Thank you for testing.

    Pete
     
  12. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Pete, many thanks.

    Excellent work by the way.
     
  13. Deacs

    Deacs Well i am from Cumbria.

    Mary Kennon, killed, was also indentified by Cortesi. Found at number 51, yet shown as living at number 55. I will look further, to see if there is more.

    Hi Pete excellent work by the way but did you find anything else

    Regards Michael.
     
  14. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Mary O'Neil Dowall - taken to Buttesland Street Mortuary
    Sophia Witchell (sic) - abdominal injury, received at St Matthew's Hospital. Later died. Name should be WITCHALLS. This case is really interesting. If you look at the CWGC entry, you would never know where she received her fatal injuries. I think the database will throw up a lot of similar cases.
    Margaret Brown - taken to Buttesland Street Mortuary

    Thanks Pete

    I did get Mary Dowall from a colleague and Margaret Brown from CWGC but didn't find Witchell(Witchalls).

    Your doing a grand worthwhile job good luck with your progress.

    Tony
     
  15. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I am no longer taking enquiries, unless it is urgently required. I am busy at work, and need to finish the other databases.

    Pete - I believe you can edit the title of your thread so that might be worth doing to dissuade further enquiries.
     
  16. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Brilliant work Pete, I don't blame you for closing enquiries. The database seems to be a great source.
    Look forward to seeing it 'going live'.
     
  17. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    It will be going on Who Do You Think You Are, and then FindMyPast - along with the London Fire Brigade Records.

    Any reason why it's not going on a free access online site?
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Pete - I believe you can edit the title of your thread so that might be worth doing to dissuade further enquiries.

    Done.
     
  19. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    Any reason why it's not going on a free access online site?

    It's a fair question, Geoff.

    I have signed a contract with FMP, which was keen to host the following databases:

    1 WW1 civilians and military killed by air raids on the UK
    2 All WW1 air raid incidents on London
    3 WW2 Fire Brigade incidents recorded on air raids in London
    4 Civilians killed or injured, in the London District, by air raids in WW2

    My contract, for which I will get a small revenue share, will pay for the databases (and 20 plus years worth of research) to be privately printed.

    I am then free, once the book is printed, to host the information free of charge, on a website, according to my contract. This will include information that FMP was not willing to host (Unidentified WW2 casualties, including photos, and bomb census maps for WW1).

    I will not be making a profit. Trust me, I have spent a small fortune in amassing this information, which I would like to be made available to as many people as possible. My revenue from FMP, and the research work for WDYTYA doesn't come close to covering my costs. But it will go some way to paying for the book(s).
     
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  20. Pete Wood

    Pete Wood Member

    Hi Pete excellent work by the way but did you find anything else

    Regards Michael.

    Sorry, but your casualties' records do not survive.

    Islington mortuary records are complete. Finsbury only has around 10 per cent survival (weeded in the '60s).
     

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