Copying the files from British Library

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by Distinction of the badges, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. Hi there,
    Good day. I need to copy a couple of old files/ books from the British Library. Is there anyone who can help me to copy (image/ scan) the files from the British Library, please? If so, please let me know the cost for copying the files. Moreover, I prefer to use PayPal for payment, please.
    Regards
    Shams
     
  2. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Shams.

    I am at the British Library in Boston Spa tomorrow.

    What book are you after?

    Regards

    Frank
     
  3. Thanks Frank for your offer. Bengal Army Dress Regulations 1885 (IOR/L/MIL/17/2/448). May I ask you about the per page cost, please?
    Regards
    Shams
     
  4. Also two more, please
    Bombay army dress regulations 1884 (IOR/L/MIL/17/4/552)
    Madras army dress regulations 1885 (IOR/L/MIL/17/3/496)
    Regards
    Shams
     
  5. JITTER PARTY

    JITTER PARTY Well-Known Member

    Those are old India Office Library references, so they won't be at Boston Spa, but at St. Pancras.
     
  6. I do not have any clue. Because I am not in UK, but Australia.
     
  7. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Shams.

    I could not track any of these books.

    Could you give me a screen shot of what you saw on the site to think that they are held by the British Library?

    Frank
     
  8. Hi Frank,

    Screenshot of the book: Bengal army dress regulations 1885
    BengalArmy.jpg
    Screenshot of the book: Bombay army dress regulations 1884
    BombayArmy.jpg
    Screenshot of the book: Madras army dress regulations 1885
    MadrasArmy.jpg

    Regards
    Shams
     
  9. Maureene

    Maureene Well-Known Member

    You could ask Lee Richards of arcre.com, who usually operates at the National Archives, Kew if he does any work at the British Library in London.
    Archive Research - www.arcre.com

    Another one you could ask is Bob O Hara Bob O'Hara - Public Record Searches at the National Archives , although he also may only do National Archives work. However, before you approach anyone I would confirm with the British Library that they permit copying of the entire books you require. My understanding is that being Government publications they would all be out of copyright, so that aspect should not be a problem. However, I believe the British Library is more restrictive than the National Archives as to what can be photographed. It is possible for books they only allow copying of a limited number of pages. To contact Asian and African Studies, you need to fill out the form
    http://www.questionpoint.org/crs/se...uildForm?&institution=13430&type=1&language=1
    This link is to be found within the following link
    South Asia
    next to the photograph of the Reading Room

    The catalogue details for the above books, from the India Office Records, are found through the British Library's Archives and Manuscript catalogue, not the Main Catalogue.

    Cheers
    Maureen
     
  10. Thanks Maureen
    I understand, but my question is these books are basically old Indian army regulations on dress of Victorian era. These are more than 130 years old regulations. Even old Indian army is now in history. Do you think still copyright law will work?
    Regards
    Shams
     
  11. idler

    idler GeneralList

    BL do acknowledge these are 'public records' so photographing them is permitted. However, I don't think they have a blanket waiver in place to allow transcription (like TNA) so there's a bit of a grey area over what can be done with them. I started to loom into it once but lost the will to live.

    I expect both BL and TNA will be looking to charge licensing fees on the publication of 'your' photos of 'their' documents even if they are expired Crown Copyright. As with IWM, they tend to price themselves out of actually making any money.
     
  12. Old Git

    Old Git Harmless Curmudgeon

    BL can be very fussy about photographing documents in the India collection, my son ran into this only a few months ago when he was researching for his Dissertation on India.He could access all he wanted but he was refused permission to take copies, even for his own personal use.
     
  13. JDKR

    JDKR Member

    Couldn't agree more about the IWM. At the risk of reducing the income from my forthcoming book to 0 I have scraped together enough funds for media licences for a paltry 3 photographs. Unless your name is Max Hastings or Anthony Beevor then the cost of licensing photographs is prohibitive. I have written to the Chairman of Trustees to complain as I believe history is the loser. Rant over.
     
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  14. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    JDKR.

    I could not agree more. The IWM is like a vet who does not like animals.

    Regards

    Frank
     
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    papiermache Well-Known Member

  16. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Posted in error
     
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