Thanks Ross. This is what's in my 'page scraped' database for German Army only, Oct '40 Name: ROTH, RUDOLF Initials: R Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 30/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 209. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HOFMANN, GEORG Initials: G Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 25/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 5, Grave 361. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: FROMME, ANTON Initials: A Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 17/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 156. Cemetery: FORT GEORGE MILITARY CEMETERY, ST. PETER PORT, GUERNSEY Name: MOLITOR, PETER Initials: P Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 17/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 155. Cemetery: FORT GEORGE MILITARY CEMETERY, ST. PETER PORT, GUERNSEY Name: PONCKE, HEINRICH Initials: H Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Age: 27 Date of Death: 20/10/1940 Service No: 19 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 151. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HAUSDORF, HAROLD Initials: H Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 28/10/1940 Service No: 6964139 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 5, Grave 3. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HAVEMANN, HEINZ Initials: H Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 16/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 9, Grave 2. (Coll.). Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HERZOG, KARL Initials: K Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 07/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 8, Grave 162. (Joint). Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HILDEBRANDT, EMIL Initials: E Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 04/10/1940 Service No: 53577-168 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 4, Grave 193. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HOFMANN, ERHARD Initials: E Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 24/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 5, Grave 40. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: HOLZER, JOHANN Initials: J Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 05/10/1940 Service No: 53-546-205 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 361. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: IRRGANG, ERHARD Initials: E Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 16/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 212. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: JOHANNSEN, HEINZ Initials: H Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 11/10/1940 Service No: 73711-55 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 7, Grave 191. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KLATT, HORST Initials: H Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 04/10/1940 Service No: 60035-17 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 110. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KNITTEL, WERNER Initials: W Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 28/10/1940 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 8, Grave 161. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KOLB, RUDOLF Initials: R Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 05/10/1940 Service No: 60554-92 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 388. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KOSCHELLA, GEORG Initials: G Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 06/10/1940 Service No: 62748-26 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 9, Grave 6. (Coll.). Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KUHN, ALFRED Initials: A Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 30/10/1940 Service No: 4 FL H B KP II Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 5, Grave 148. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: KUHNE, SIEGBERT Initials: S Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 08/10/1940 Service No: 65119 B 69 A Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 9, Grave 54. (Coll.). Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: LEGE, PAUL Initials: P Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 07/10/1940 Service No: 53537-13 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 34. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Name: LENZ, ALFRED Initials: A Nationality: German Rank: Soldier Regiment: German Army Date of Death: 29/10/1940 Service No: 65176 B-16 Casualty Type: Foreign National Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 1, Grave 27. Cemetery: CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY
...And it's quite possible they have been put down as army instead of air force...I guess a cross check on VDK will tell if there are errors
Something adrift here. The excel file was supplied by Maidenhead about a month ago. Looking at the first entry you have gives from the excel file 2130 ROTH Airman R RUDOLF German Air Force 30-Oct-1940 Block 1, Grave 209. CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY Staffordshire United Kingdom Second World War Air Force German
Hi re Geoff's list for Cannock, with the exception of Poncke, they are all Luftwaffe crews. Regards, Graeme
Just checked Werner Knittel. His body was recovered in Sept 1973 from the wreck of Bf 109E-4, Werk num 5095. Regards Ross Postings crossed. So it looks like my numbers are the correct ones.
Second error. Littlestone-on-Sea is not in Norfolk, but a small coastal village close to New Romney Kent.
At the risk of repeating myself.........., Brian The Germains never landed in England in WW2. End of story. Our only problem is trying to convince others of the truth of that statement and that, I fear, would be a complete and utter waste of our time and effort. Have a good day ! Ron
Owen - what's the ref for the Wilts war diary for the bloke that went missing. I get it next month for starters.
ah this one? http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/3183-4th-wilts-soldier-captured-by-e-boat-crew/ mentioned again here. http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/43163-world-war-two-myth/ your post #19 lists war diaries , I just can't find anymore about a name or date. I'd like to sit down & read through them sometime to see if it mentioned.
Winds, tides and currents can do strange things. One man lost from the 9th LCT flotilla (see my thread on 'Martin Long' or 'HMLCT 488') was found on the coast of Brittany in 1944. Most of the bodies of the lost were never recovered. The 'burnt from the waist down' reports seem very strange. Can anyone account for similar injuries or cause of death?
Hmm... A few years ago I read about some French civilians who witnessed a German landing barge exercise loaded with troops end in disaster off the coast of France, straffed by some British aircraft causing a fuel leak that ignited killing a number of German soldiers. This was attributed to the story of the burned bodies as a partial explanation, as always could be fabricated or another tall tale.
In relation to the possibility of items...including bodies!...floating all the way across the Channel... ...the war diary of No.5 Commando, temporarily stationed in St. Margaret's Bay, Dover, in the autumn of 1940, records that on the 30th of October a tin of German rations washed up in the Bay!!!
Pretty sure there was a book about this 'failed invasion' with half burned bodies within the last five years or so... but I'm blowed if I can remember its title or author... I do recall that the cover photo was posed with re-enactors, if that sets anyone else's grey cells off.
Staffsyeoman, Is this the one you are thinking of? The Bodies on the Beach: Sealion, Shingle Street and the Burning Sea Myth of 1940 - James Hayward Regards ...