Film: Downfall - Der Untergang

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  1. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Actually, I think it is all the more terrible because of the fact that you have seen everyone behaving relatively 'normally', even Hitler in some moments, interspersed with his violent rages. Although the guy who played Goebbels seriously creeped me. I could have nightmares about him!
    He looks like "Lurch" out of the Addams Family :lol: But he is extremely creepy. Seemed a bit taller than his real life counterpart too!
     
  2. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    Whenever I want a war film with a happy ending.......:)
    The one thing that worried me was,after watching that film I was under the impression that Mohnke the SS guy was an "alright sort of bloke" hhmmm,then read a bit and found he was a murderous perverted scumbag,ah well,the runes should have given that away.....
    (and I couldnt get past the guy who negotiated with the Russians,in Russian, played the insane randy President in that weird sci fi programe about a dead guy with purple hair..)
     
  3. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    Thought it was a good solid film, well put together. The murder scene with the children is truly awful and shows the Nazis for who they were. Overall the film is very depressing with an insight to what those final days of madness must have been like.
     
  4. chipmunk wallah

    chipmunk wallah Senior Member

    "Seemed a bit taller than his real life counterpart too!"
    Wasnt just me that thought it odd that the "poison dwarf" was played by the tallest actor in europe then? :)
     
  5. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    The SS doctor Ernest Gunther Schenck carried out experiments on prisoners in Concentration camps. In the film there was no hint of what a monster he must have been or SS-Brigadefuhrer Mohnke for that matter.
     
  6. Panzerschreck

    Panzerschreck Member

    I think the movie is absolutely superb!
     
  7. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Merged a few threads


    Downfall's Hitler actor Bruno Ganz dies
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    Ganz was well-known in German-language cinema and theatre

    Bruno Ganz, who played Hitler in the 2004 film Downfall, has died aged 77.

    The Swiss actor died at home in Zurich on Friday night, his management said.

    Ganz was well-known in German-language cinema and theatre and also had roles in English-language films including The Reader and The Manchurian Candidate.

    His most famous role, however, was as Adolf Hitler in Downfall. One particular scene depicting Hitler in apoplectic fury became a meme and spawned thousands of parodies online.

    The film, called Der Untergang in German, told the story of Hitler's final days in his Berlin bunker. It grossed $92m (£71.3m) at box offices around the world when it was released.

    It was named winner of the BBC Four World Cinema Award and was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film, but since then it has become almost as famous for a wave of internet parodies of its final scene, poking fun at numerous news events.

    A New York Times reviewer called Ganz's performance "intriguing" and "creepily charismatic".

    In 2005 Ganz told The Guardian newspaper that he spent four months preparing for the role, studying historical records including a secretly-recorded tape of Hitler and observing people with Parkinson's disease, which he came to believe the dictator had.

    But he said: "I cannot claim to understand Hitler. Even the witnesses who had been in the bunker with him were not really able to describe the essence of the man.

    "He had no pity, no compassion, no understanding of what the victims of war suffered."

    Ganz, the most famous Swiss actor, had a rich and varied career. He played a vampire in Werner Herzog's Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979) and an angel in Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire (1987) and its sequel Faraway, So Close! (1993).

    He appeared in genres including noir - The American Friend (1977) - and science fiction - The Boys from Brazil (1978), which starred Sir Laurence Olivier. In 2008 he had a role in The Baader Meinhof Complex and his last role was in Lars von Trier's 2018 film The House that Jack Built.

    At the time of his death, Ganz was the holder of the Iffland-Ring, an accolade to the German-speaking actor judged "most significant and worthy".

    The ring is passed from person to person, and it is not yet clear who Ganz had intended it to transfer to on the occasion of his death.

    It has been reported that Ganz had been diagnosed with colon cancer.
     
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  8. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

  9. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Traudl Junge - Wikipedia

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    Hans Hermann Junge - Wikipedia

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    Downfall (2004) - Trivia - IMDb

    "In the opening scene of the film, where Traudl is being interviewed for the position of Hitler's secretary in late 1942, she introduces herself to him as Traudl Humps. However, in all scenes in the bunker in April 1945, she is referred to as Frau Junge. In June 1943, Traudl, with Hitler's approval, married Waffen-SS officer Hans Hermann Junge, who was subsequently killed in action in France in August 1944. Because the film jumps directly from 1942 to 1945, these events are not depicted. However, her name change is correct."

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