Fylde R.U.F.C. and Woodlands Memorial Ground

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  1. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    Woodlands Memorial Ground - Wikipedia

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    K Barlass
    F Baron
    E G Brammer
    C H Brierley
    H L Bromley
    K Burrows
    B Critchley
    R A F Eltoft
    J B Fairhurst
    A E Ferguson
    H Fish
    R A V Grieve
    G E Grindrod
    R Hartley
    S Hawkard
    H Heald
    G D Holme
    P Horsman
    A Lockett
    G Lucas
    D M Muller
    D V Osborne
    V J D Riddell
    R L Sellars
    J Walmsley
     

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  2. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Leading Aircraftman BARLASS, KENNETH
    Service Number 1067047
    Died 07/01/1942
    Aged 21
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of James A. and Mabel E. Barlass, of St. Annes-on-Sea, Lancashire, England.

    [There are two F Baron’s, one from Blackpool and the other from Preston. Both are local, but only one the right man; likely Frank. Both entered here until clarified.]

    Lieutenant BARON, FRANK
    Service Number 256846
    Died 28/08/1944
    Aged 23
    Royal Engineers
    Son of Thomas and Isabella Baron, of Marton, Blackpool, Lancashire. B. Eng., Hons.

    Serjeant BARON, FRANCIS
    Service Number 7880469
    Died 05/02/1943
    Aged 36
    48th Royal Tank Regiment, R.A.C.
    Son of William and Margaret Baron, of Preston; husband of Alice Baron, of Preston.

    Lieutenant BRAMMER, ERIC GEORGE
    Service Number 285348
    Died 27/03/1945
    Aged 22
    Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
    Son of Wilfred and Edith Brammer, of Blackpool, Lancashire; husband of N. Brammer, of Blackpool.

    Major BRIERLEY, CYRIL HUGH
    Service Number 179517
    Died 19/10/1945
    Aged 32
    99 Tipper Coy. Royal Army Service Corps
    Son of Herbert and Bessie Dora Brierley; husband of Margaret Spencer Brierley, of St. Annes-on-Sea, Lancashire.

    [There is only one HL Bromley on CWGC, but no definite link to St Annes presently. Edit: this link suggests that this man was from Bolton and not therefore the right man, but there is no other it could be using all permutations on CWGC: Roll of honour]

    Pilot Officer BROMLEY, HARRY LEIGHTON
    Service Number 64224
    Died 22/08/1941
    Aged 47
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Arthur Paul and Susanna Bromley.

    Corporal BURROWS, KENNETH
    Service Number S/167712
    Died 02/03/1944
    Aged 29
    Royal Army Service Corps attd Royal Artillery
    Son of William and Christina Burrows, of St. Annes-on-Sea, Lancashire.

    B Critchley cannot be found on CWGC. There is a CB Critchley on the St Annes War Memorial, but again cannot be found on CWGC (yet).

    Gunner ELTOFT, ROBERT AUGUSTUS FRANCIS
    Service Number 326705
    Died 05/04/1940
    Aged 30
    77 Field Regt. Royal Artillery
    Son of John A. F. Eltoft and Annie Maria Eltoft, of St. Anne's-on-Sea.

    Captain FAIRHURST, JOHN BALL
    Service Number 85397
    Died 02/11/1942
    Aged 26
    Warwickshire Yeomanry, Royal Armoured Corps
    Son of Peter and Minnie Fairhurst, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    Flight Lieutenant (Pilot) FERGUSON, ALAN EGERTON
    Service Number 139598
    Died 06/09/1943
    Aged 32
    78 Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Alfred Oswald and Gertrude Ferguson; husband of Joyce Ferguson.

    Bombardier FISH, HAROLD
    Service Number 908413
    Died 26/09/1943
    Aged 26
    88 Field Regt. Royal Artillery
    Son of Harold Aldred and Alice Fish, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    [There is only one RAV Grieve on CWGC, but no definite link to St Annes presently. Edit: Found this school connection, but still cannot tie him back to St Annes: WW2 Memorial - War Memorials Online]

    Lieutenant GRIEVE, ROBERT ARCHIBALD VIVIAN

    Service Number 176437
    Died 24/10/1942
    Aged 35
    5/7th Bn. Gordon Highlanders
    Son of Robert Grieve and of Winifred Mary Grieve (nee Diamond); husband of Nora Grieve (nee Glenny).

    Lieutenant (A) GRINDROD, GEORGE EDWARD
    Died 21/06/1944
    Aged 29
    H.M.S. Victorious, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Frank John and Annie Elizabeth Grindrod, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    Second Lieutenant HARTLEY, ROBERT
    Service Number 153633
    Died 10/01/1942
    137 Field Regt. Royal Artillery

    Lieutenant HAWKARD, JOHN STUART

    Service Number PO/X 111009
    Died 10/09/1943
    Aged 20
    No. 41 R.M. Commando. Royal Marines
    Son of Herbert and Florence Hawkard, of Fairhaven, Lytham St. Annes, Lancashire.

    Flight Sergeant HEALD, HAROLD
    Service Number 754418
    Died 24/07/1941
    Aged 23
    12 Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Walter and Bertha Heald, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    Lieutenant Colonel HOLME, GEORGE DODGSON
    Service Number 37672
    Died 07/01/1942
    Cdg. 137 Field Regt., Royal Artillery

    Bombardier HORSMAN, PETER
    Service Number 896402
    Died 10/01/1942
    Aged 23
    137 Field Regt. Royal Artillery

    A Lockett cannot be found on CWGC. There is a A Lockett on the St Annes War Memorial, but again cannot be found on CWGC (yet).

    Ordinary Coder LUCAS, GORDON HENRY
    Service Number P/JX 228900
    Died 25/03/1941
    Aged 30
    H.M.S. Mercury. Royal Navy
    Son of Emily Jane Lucas, of Cleveleys, Lancashire.


    Sub-Lieutenant (A) MULLER, DONALD MORRIS
    Died 18/10/1941
    Aged 22
    H.M.S. Ark Royal. Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Paul and Alice Muller, of South Shore, Blackpool.

    Sergeant OSBORNE, DEREK VINCENT
    Service Number 998686
    Died 21/09/1941
    Aged 25
    602 Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Samuel Osborne, and of Mary Christina Osborne, of Ansdell, Lancashire.

    Sergeant RIDDEL, VICTOR JOHN DOUGLAS
    Service Number 655722
    Died 02/05/1944
    Aged 24
    58 Sqdn. Royal Air Force
    Son of John Riddel, and of Maud C. Riddel, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    Sergeant SELLARS, ROBERT LINDON
    Service Number 758087
    Died 21/04/1941
    Aged 23
    616 Sqdn. Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Son of Robert and Clara Sellars, of Blackpool, Lancashire.

    J Walmsley cannot be found on CWGC. There is a J Walmsley on the St Annes War Memorial, but again cannot be found on CWGC (yet). Per information held at St Annes Parish Church this man is named as JH Walmsley, but still not found on CWGC.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2018
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  3. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    The prior e-mail has been populated on the basis of the mix of the following information available - Surnames, Initials, Appearance on the St Annes War Memorial and the Residence being in St Annes, Blackpool or their near surrounds. It is likely that it is not 100% accurate, so please do contact me if changes are required.

    I found this Fylde Rugby Club history, But it does not include a roll of the War Dead: http://www.fylderugby.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Fylde_history_1919-1969.pdf

    Best,

    Steve.
     
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  4. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    That's a lovely little memorial. Billy Beaumont's old club too. :salut:
     
  5. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    Hello Steve,

    This Fylde RoH May have some interest for you.

    I have been researching some of the loose ends on the Fylde Roll of Honour and one of those involves what looked like a connection between Lt-Col GD Holme and Bombadier Peter Horsman, the former is listed on the St Annes War Memorial and the only GD Holme on CWGC but I couldn’t find a connection otherwise with St Annes.

    Now got it. They were both in 137th Field Regiment, RA, which was involved in the Malayan debacle in December 1941/January 1942. This regiment was known by nickname as the ‘Blackpool Regiment’. I am currently researching the 137th Field Regiment, RA’s, Roll of Honour and have already found another of the loose ends = Lt Robert Hartley (who is also listed on the St Annes War Memorial).

    In Memory

    Other sources:

    1. 137 Field Regiment | Fylde Coaster - Includes backdrop to the death of Lt-Col GD Holme.

    2. 2nd Lt Robert Hartley

    Best,

    Steve.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2018
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  6. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Thanks Steve, I'll take a good look. :)
     
  7. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    In St Cuthbert's churchyard, Lytham.

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  8. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    473 Clifton Drive North , Lytham St Anne's M.B., Lancashire
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Bessie D Brierley 18 Feb 1881 Chiropodist [widow]
    Cyril M Brierley 22 Jan 1913 Commercial Traveller

    (I've checked the original image and it should read Cyril H Brierley)


    Marriages Mar 1909
    BRIERLEY Herbert regd: Stockport 8a 47
    WARWICK Bessie Dora regd: Stockport 8a 47


    Births Mar 1913
    Brierley Cyril H mmn: Warwick regd: Chorlton 8c 1323

    Lancashire Births: 1913
    BRIERLEY Cyril Hugh Didsbury


    According to a family tree on Ancestry, Herbert Brierley died of typhoid fever on 1 Oct 1916 in Salonika.
    Casualty
     
  9. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Marriages Jun 1936
    Ferguson Alan E Beaver regd: Fylde 8e 1662
    Beaver Joyce Ferguson regd: Fylde 8e 1662

    2 daughters.

    1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
    'Fairways', Laburnum Avenue, Ballam Road Lytham St Anne's M.B., Lancashire
    NAME DOB OCCUPATION
    Alan E Ferguson 26 Mar 1911 India Rubber Water Proofs Joint Managing ?
    Joyce Ferguson 21 Dec 1913 Unpaid D Duties
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
    Gladys MacDonald (Foster) 26 Aug 1913 Domestic Servant
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.


    St Cuthbert's Churchyard, Lytham:

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    IN
    EVER LOVING MEMORY
    OF
    JOYCE
    DEARLY BELOVED WIFE OF
    ALAN EGERTON FERGUSON
    DEC 8TH 1939 IN HER 26TH YEAR
    "THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD"
    ALSO HER HUSBAND ALAN EGERTON F/LT R.A.F. V.R.
    MISSING PRESUMED KILLED MANNHEIM
    SEP 6th 1943 AGED 32 YEARS
    AND WAS INTERRED IN RHEINBERG CEMETERY
     
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    harkness Well-Known Member

  11. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    I have updated message no. 2 with the confirmatory ‘Ferguson’ information. Thank you.

    It appears that Grieve moved around the UK as his business interests dictated and played rugby, so not discounting a connection just yet.

    Still work to do on Baron, Bromley, Critchley, Grieve, Lockett and Walmsley, to complete the analysis.
     
  12. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    There is further information on some of the WWII memorialised at St Annes Parish Church: http://www.stannesparishchurch.org/GraveWalkGuide2016.pdf

    See page 12 for further information on Gnr RAF Eltoft.

    See page 64 for further clarity on the names of those memorialised. The only further lead on those still needing work is that J Walmsley is actually ‘JH Walmsley’. There are two JH Walmsley’s on CWGC, one from Blackburn and the other from Lancaster. Both are near to St Annes without being local. Still unclear.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2018
  13. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    I started to photograph the war death-related headstones at St. Anne's Church the Saturday before last, but was defeated both by the bitterly cold wind and by having a dodgy foot, which meant I kept nearly losing my balance when treading on tussocks.
     

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