Isn't (or wasn't) there an Army Museum in Potsdam? I am unable to find a useful website on the internet... Planning a Berlin visit and need to know where, what, how images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif TIA! Regards, Marco
The Army museum is in Dresden; Berlin-Gatow houses a small Air Force museum http://www.luftwaffenmuseum.de/index_en.htm
Hello Egbert, Thanks, that museum is #1 on the list. Have you been there? Somewhere I found an (old?) description saying it has 100 aircraft and the slide-show shows what appears to be an impressive collection. Regards, Marco
I have been in the Luftwaffenmuseum when it was still stationed in Appen/Uetersen on the old airfield there; they don't have too much WW2 stuff-everything burnt to hell in the war; its more static aircraft from after the war to include the inherited East German junk aircraft. Back in the days when i visited it, they just removed the original fieldmarshal uniform from Hermann the great from display. Some visitors complained of glorification......although its for God sake HISTORY by now!
Couldn't agree more. Was surprised to see the swastika's taped off in some museums in my 2002 trip. The slideshow on the website you gave the link to shows some nice stuff like a dreidekker. Anyhow the Luftwaffemuseum has a Me-109 (admittedly Spanisch build) so I'm a happy puppy if I make it. Will let you know what I thought of it. Regards, Marco
The only real surprise was a He 111 (yes yes, Spanish built with Hispano Suiza motors), sorry no swastikas allowed in Germany
I'm certain that swastikas aren't supposed to be displayed in German museums but when I visited the Deutsches Museum in Munich in May of this year there were some small ones on show. The WWII aircraft, a Bf109, Me162 & Me262, didn't have swastikas marked on them. The floatplanes on the warship models, the Admiral Hipper & Scharnhorst if I recall correctly, did, however, have swastikas marked on their tail fins. The model S-boot also had the correct WWII ensign, including swastika.
I thought that these kind of things were for historical and educational purposes in the german articles of law: summary of section ยง 86, 86a: "Items that are used for making propaganda for a party or group which is classed as unconstitutional or forbidden, even if they act outside Gemany, may not be spread inside Germany. This applies for items made to propagate ideas that correspond with the ideas of the "Third Reich". They might not be made, kept, imported or exported. The punishment may be prison (up to three years) or a fine. This does not apply if those items are used in order to inform others, repel actions that are aimed against the constitution, if they are used in art, science, research, teaching, or to report about historical events or similar purposes. If you use or show symbols or signs used by parties or groups that can be classified as unconstitutional, or if you manufacture, keep, export or import those, you may be punished (three years imprisonment or fine). You may not use or spread items that display or contain those signs or symbols, e.g. flags, insignia, uniforms (or parts of uniforms), mottos and forms of greeting. You may also not use or spread signs or symbols that look similar to those. This does not apply if those items are used in order to inform others, repel actions that are aimed against the constitution, if they are used in art, science, research, teaching, or to report about historical events or similar purposes." regards MG
