Casualty Gunner LAMBOURNE, WILLIAM ERNEST Service Number 1519899 Died 08/07/1943 Aged 37 89 Bty., 35 Lt. A.A. Regt. Royal Artillery Son of William Thomas Lambourne and Mary Lambourne; husband of Doris Grace Lambourne, of St. Ebbe, Oxford. This negates the need to supply a death certificate - unless they have changed the forms again !! TD
It says a copy of the death certificate if he or she died following discharge from the service. Because he died while in service would that mean they wouldn’t need it?
I was quoting from these forms. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...545054/request_service_details_NOK_pt1_v6.pdf iii. A copy of the death certificate of the person whose record you seek. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa..._service_details_general_enquirers_pt1_v6.pdf i. A copy of the death certificate of the person whose record you seek.
Someone has also kindly informed me that his dog tags were found under Osaka castle in 2000 but the wearabouts now are unknown. Does anyone else know any more about this? Thanks Osaka Castle | COFEPOW
Crikey!! Your thread has moved on a wee bit since I last looked Emma. Well done to all who have contributed.
I know, I’m a bit addicted at all this research now! Amazed at what’s been shared and how helpful you all are! Only came across this forum by accident, thanks everyone! Now to try and find more about these dog tags found under Osaka castle!
If you find anything re Osaka Castle you can add to all our education - its how generally this site works, we all have expertise in certain areas and its bringing it all together in threads like this that makes this site what it is TD
I definitely will. When I get a photo of my GG tomorrow where would be the best place to share this so people who may be interested can see it?
start an album in the Gallery , good place for you to keep images related to your search too. you can link from there to your threads.
The Thailand Burma Railway replied. A lot of the info was what you have all kindly sent me or linked, just this as an extra. It says he was originally buried at Motoyama public Cemetary, would this have been when he first died. The other document attached shows he was buried 3 years after dying then reburied 6 months later. Just trying to work out where he might have been for those first 3 years
As regards his Service Records, there is a contact telephone number so you could call and explain the situation. After so long, and his death being documented in some detail here, plus the dogtags they should be fairly reasonable about you or your Mum applying after explaining your family connection to him. I'd rather suggest you enquire of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission as to the burial procedures. Bear in mind that the Japanese regarded surrender as beneath contempt, hence their treatment of men who "accepted shame rather than death" in their eyes. (Notwithstanding that they obeyed their Commanding Officer order to surrender en masse, not as individuals). The Japanese also were accustomed to cremation of their dead and this frequently included PoW deaths. You'll note references to "wall niche" and "urn", so it may be transferring a casket from one place to another until buried in Yokohama. I'm simply cautioning you about what MIGHT have happened, not what DID happen, which is why I suggest you ask the CWGC, if it's really important to have this information.
Thanks, Im at my Nans at the moment and she’s keen to have them; she didn’t realise she could so she’s happy to sign anything. I’ll call them to make sure I sent all the correct bits. We don’t really need to know I was just curious really , might be better not knowing I guess. I’ll get on to sorting the records today though. Thanks again.
Motoyama is right next to Ube so would have been original burial ground, his remains would have been there for three years until being moved to Yokohama. I'm almost certain that the burial and reburial six months apart would refer to movement within Yokohama. I'm wondering whether in all this we are talking about cremation and ashes. Cremation was very common in Japan. Concentration Reports on CWGC entry mentions Urns. (Emma if you haven't seen them go to TD's link in Post 41 and scroll to bottom of page). Tim