This photograph is of Sydney Gutteridege and I am aiming to find out a bit more about him and his services, can someone identify his regiment for starters? Thank you.
Royal Armoured Corps cap badge worn from 1939-1941.Here it is with the cap badge worn from 41 onwards with King and Queens crown.
I'd go along with Jase with Royal Armoured Corps and as an outside bet - The Queen's Bays 2nd Dragoon Guards
A picture of the RAC badge on the left of the 3 incase folk were thinking of the more common mailed fist.
It's The Bays. Was just upstairs checking. Owen, im not sure the y dips below and you cant see that in the pic plus it looks like a C on the end not a S
Whereas the outside Wreath and Crown are able to be made out, the centre is more of a blurr to me and I am unable to see it clearly to say what it is. Regards Tom
If I can put two cents worth in- it is extremely difficult to see the differences in the Bays and RAC - BUT generally - most Cavalry regiments kept their traditional cap badges - so the 2nd Queens Bays would have been the double headed eagle of the Hapsburg era - and the infantry units transfered to the RAC wore the mailed fist - I am thinking now of the regiments in which I served - 145 RAC came from the 8th Battalion of the Duke of Wellingtons - and wore the mailed fist - and the 16/5th lancers wore their traditional crossed lances with the number 16 overlaid - not even a mention of the 5th Irish until HM the Queen designed the blazer badge joining 16th and 5th lancers - which I wear today on blazers with the cap badge of the 16th- this badge can be seen in the photo of the three ex cavalry men at lunch in North London thread.. Cheers
Owen not like you to give up so easily - and we still have to answer the initial question by Waxwing of " What regiment was the chappie in ?" - the RAC was a Corps - so was it a training regiment who wore the RAC badge surrounded by the laurels etc - most training REGIMENTS were numbered and wore the mailed fist ??? Or was it in fact the Bays as you so describe as I only said "Generally the cavalry wore their original badges"- but then the Bays were always just that bit differentWe could use a bit more information from Waxwing..... Cheers
And there was me basking in the glow of Owen standing corrected, then along comes Tom, with all sorts of sensible ideas
WTID 45 - I have been known to close a few threads with the same methods - in the DNA I guess - stubborn Scot..... Cheers
The Kings Dragoon Guards were give permission to wear the Habsberg Eagle by Queen Victoria who's cousin was Emperor Franz Joseph who became Colonel in Chief of the regiment in the mid1890's.When WW1 was due to break out the regiment reverted to their old cap badge because Austria was now going to be an enemy.After the war was over the Kings Dragoon Guards reverting back to wearing the double headed eagle.The Queens Bays were a separate regiment and wore the Bays Badge as in the picture.In 1959,the two regiments amalgamated,and formed The 1st Queens Dragoon Guards.The Queens Dragoon Guards retained the Bays badge as the regiments collar dogs.The Bays fought in Italy, and the Kings Dragoon Guards in North Africa.The Kings Dragoon Guards maybe are the only regiment in the British Army to have been awarded Iron Crosses.
