Help with abbreviations in Service Records

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Mary Cole, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Some useful information but wondering if you had any idea of some of my fathers service record abrreviations attached. I can't find some of them and would be grateful for some guidance.
    Thank you
     

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  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Hello Mary and welcome

    Is this the only page you have of your father's records? Basically this is just a summary and you should have some pages of the Army B103 form. See my father's records attached. Do you have any of these as they will enable us to help much more.
    Ernest Illingworth, Army Records | WW2Talk

    Lesley
     
  3. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Hi
    Lesley, sadly, I don't have much. This is what the MOD sent me. Should there be more?
     

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  4. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Just one final page I'm afraid, that's all! It's the statement of service but won't allow me to upload it.
     
  5. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    moved this to a thread of its own
     
  6. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    Hello Mary. Which abbreviations do you need to know?
     
  7. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Hello and thank you. I asked the MOD for my fathers B103 form but they said they do not have it. I know GHQ BRC and I think ALF is allied land force. As you can see from the attached, there is Y list, Now 24,1,BC, the first entry with 14-8-4, the 3 rd entry and TPS in the bottom but one column. I'm also not sure what all the numbers in the Part 11 Order column mean. Sorry to be a bit blonde but most of it is "Greek" to me.
     

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  8. RRTB

    RRTB 145 Fd Regt (Berkshire Yeomanry) RA

    ALF is indeed Allied Land Forces.

    The Y list (quoted from elsewhere on these forums)

    The army ruling at one time was that if a soldier had been in hospital for 21 days or more he was put on the Y-list; which meant that when he became fit for duty he was sent to a holding unit and then could be sent to any unit other than his own. This, in most cases, was not a popular move which, I believe under the orders of General Montgomery, was changed. The ruling became that if a soldier was in hospital for 21 day when wounded or sick for 30 days he was entitled to seven days home sick leave and then would return to his own unit if they wished or could be transferred to another unit.

    The Part 11 numbers in the column refer to movement orders - Part 1 orders were registered with the Adjutant General's office for troop movements and part 11 was the counterpart for the soldier's records (as far as I can remember - I could be wrong).

    RRTB
     
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  9. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    14 - 8 - 4 should have a 1 on as that was the date he was posted to the 3rd Training Battalion.(D) Depot.

    Now 24,1,B.C. Struggling with this.
    When he left the UK he was with the 4th Infantry Brigade (24)Coy.
    So it looks as if it was changed to 24. I. B. C. Can find nothing about what this was 24th Infantry Brigade corps, Indian British Command? Needs more research.

    TPS. Prepare to kick oneself. :) Transport.
    This chap in the same company.
    WO 373/40 . EGLON, EDMUND CORPORAL T/67307
    387 COMPANY (ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS) INFANTRY DIVISIONAL TRANSPORT BURMA. MILITARY MEDAL 12 JULY 1945.

    Y list 20/11/45. He would be on the Y list at this time, to show that he was in the process of being Demobbed.
     
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  10. RRTB

    RRTB 145 Fd Regt (Berkshire Yeomanry) RA

    Would "NOW" be the last part of the place name Lucknow, which is in India?

    RRTB
     
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  11. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    RRTB. Yes I would say spot on.
    Lucknow - 24th Infantry Brigade Company. 1/2/43.
     
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  12. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Thank you so much to everyone who has helped with abbreviations. Between yourselves and someone suggesting I search the LRC archive, I've been able to glean far more information. I can now expand my fathers memoirs with details which which will not be lost in the annals of time. Bless you all
     
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  13. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Hello again, my husband is struggling with his fathers military records and would like to know what the entry X (ii) list is.
    His father was taken POW and we are wondering if this might relate to this. Thank you
     

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  14. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    It always worth using the forum search facility - search for X lists turns up -

    X lists (Service Records)

    Xii is basically evacuated from his unit sick/wounded etc.

    As per your original post earlier this year - fuller detail will be on his B103's. This is one side of the central registry index form (B102?) noting brief detail of information recorded on the B103's.

    I can't see any mention of being taken POW on the Index Card - my fathers B103 has several entries on it regarding being taken POW.

    Regards

    Steve Y
     
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  15. Mary Cole

    Mary Cole Member

    Thank you Steve, very helpful. I'll take a look at his other records and see if he has a B103.
     

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