I have a couple of medals that I want to research P/JX 155694 AB H J Clark minesweeping 45-51 P/KX 837323 LSM A H Allen korea pair If I can get a poss enlistment date I maybe able to work out dob then find death certificate to get SR any help with ranks would be a help as well Also wondering if they had ww2 service? Regards James
From the Official (Service) Nos the P indicates Portsmouth as the Base Port. For Clark the J indicates he was a Seaman and AB is Able Seaman. I also think the number 155694 is on or before 1943. For Allen the K indicates he was a Stoker and LSM is Leading Stoker Mechanic. Again not sure but I think the number 837323 is on or after 1943. Tim
Some reading for you RN OFFICIAL NUMBERS [RATINGS] Or maybe take the bull by the horns and ask here - Contact us | Royal Navy you never know until you have tried TD
UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972 Name: Alfred Harold Allen Medal or Award: RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal Service Year: 1944-1963 There's no service number on the document attached to this record TD UPDATE - hes a RM - sorry
TD have already tried contacting them unless I can produce a death certificate then they cannot release any information I tried getting a death certificate and using that but was rejected as the wrong person there were 6 with the same name but only 1 died over 25 years ago but they won’t confirm which one of the other 5 names was my man as 3 others are approaching 25 years I was hoping someone may have a number close in their collection or researched a sailor with a known start date Hence my query.
AH Allen I have managed to whittle down to a 1929 birth date due to finding a set of medals with original parchment with a number 15 away from my man he had a 1929 birth date which will also tie in being korea. With a 1947 enlistment date J Clark looks like a 1916-21 birth date but there are too many possibles data based on cwgc site of similar numbers who died and their ages range from 21 years to 25 years depending if signed as a boy or a man
TD thanks I have been using Geoffrey’s site for approx 10 years it’s useful but when trying to get past the MoD you need hard data. If the RN just release the medal cards then it would solve this problem MN released theirs years ago and the ww1 cards were at the NA 30 years before the 2014 As it’s 20 years to the start of ww2 they have been a bit slow. It would also stop unscrupulous sellers adding Medals to otherwise empty boxes As one of my groups was a 39-45 star Atlantic star and war medal in box of issue with slip confirming 3 Medals MoD have just sent his papers and he actually received the 39-45 star France and Germany star and war medal.