Identify please: can someone identify it

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Ahmed Muhammad, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Hi,
    I laid my hands on these objects can someone identify these that in which timeframe were these being used. Monoculors I think belong to British Indian Army troops in North West Frontier
    Thanx IMG-20170930-WA0032.jpg IMG-20170930-WA0030.jpg IMG-20170930-WA0034.jpg IMG-20170930-WA0033.jpg
     
  2. lionboxer

    lionboxer Member

    Surveying instruments I think. May not be military.
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Saw similar steroscopic viewers at a National Trust house back in the summer.
    Hughenden
    They had a display on wartime photographic interpretation , they used the 3D viewers to help them ID items of interest in aerial recce photos.
    How 3D glasses helped defeat Hitler




    The Army was still using something similar to that pointer in the 80s as when I was in a Match83 competition one of the range staff used it to point out a target to me when there was some confusion on which bush to aim at.
     
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  4. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Staff pointer used for silent communication between a sniper and spotter to designate targets.
    Telescope made by Taylor, Taylor and Hobson of Leicester. Probably also part of the spotter's kit.
     
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  5. Thanx all I would surely contact the Taylor's to find me that when this particular item was delivered
     
  6. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    Top picture Scout Regiment sniper telescope
     
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  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

  8. lionboxer

    lionboxer Member

    Glad to be proved wrong! Interesting information.
     
  9. Great info
    Thanx
     
  10. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Not really something you associate with snipers.
    Most I have read related to snipers in WW2 were working alone without spotters.
    I see that most modern snipers have a spotter and wonder if this was the case in WW1.
    Interesting posts to read.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  11. FSO

    FSO Member

    The Pointer, Staff is also part of the Vickers set up kit - for ranging. The stereoscope is part of the Photo Interpretation Set, used by RAF PIs and as part of the Field Kit for Army Photo Interpretation Sections (divisional staffs)
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Any photos available of these items being used? Fascinating topic raised by the OP.
     
  13. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Can't find one of the pointer staff but here's one of sniper and spotter with telescope.
    Tim
     

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  14. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  15. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Thanks Owen. I thought that's how it would be used but seems somewhat restrictive: too small and consequently lacking in operational functionality unless the other chap - presumably the Sniper - was always positioned behind the spotter. Makes you wonder how often it was actually used. ( Reminds me of the PIAT thread).
     
  16. Actually I visited the headquarters of Noshehra Brigade which was once 2 infantry Brigade in 1878 2nd Anglo Afghan War in Peshawar Valley Force, Later Noshera 2nd Brigade ex 1st Peshawar Division North West Frontier, then redesignated 4 infantry Indian Brigade 1920-1927 again redesignated Noshera Brigade in 1927
    Found these things lying with them and got curious if these are as old as they claim themselves to be
    Other things were the books dating 1910 Afghanistan Gazette and 1914 Chitral Gazette
     
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