Is this the Black Watch?

Discussion in 'British Army Units - Others' started by yogib, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Condie

    Condie Member

    Ha Ha, Tom.. with the greatest of respect mate.... I knew that would get you on the trot, Excellent.
    You Canadian Scots / Scots Canadians Eh!

    My Uncle from Windygates, Fife who went to Canada when he was 22, lived many years in London Ontario, he now lives with his son, in Waterville, Nova Scotia, He's 82

    Nova Scotia means 'New Scotland' I think. So would you class him as a Scot or a Canadian or a Scotian.

    Where In Canada are you Tom?
    regards
    Gordon
     
  2. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Condie - if he was in Canada after 1982 - when Trudaeu repatriated the North American Charter from the Houses of parliament in the UK - then IF he wanted to vote - he would then have been forced to take Canadian Citizenship - as we had to at that time - until that time we - as Brirtish Citizens could vote and do all things that canadians did - with No hassles - Trudeau put his foot down on that and made it into a lawyers benefit trough... and they are still feeding there !
    NOVA SCOTIA is the Latin for New Scotland as you say .....which really filled up - as did Manitoba on the Highland clearance of 1750

    I live at the other end of Canada from Nova Scotia - 75 miles east of Vancouver in Beautiful - Super - Natural - British Columbia.

    Cheers
     
  3. eejit

    eejit WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    I live at the other end of Canada from Nova Scotia - 75 miles east of Vancouver in Beautiful - Super - Natural - British Columbia.


    :confused::confused:What are you:) :)smokin' tonight:mad:Tom?:lol::lol:
    Super-Natural-BC:confused:???? What's wrong with NS?:sign_question:
     
  4. Passchendaele_Baby

    Passchendaele_Baby Grandads Little Girl

    Aahh! I still think it says 'black witch' not watch - You know, like the wicked witch of the north (or east). It keeps popping up on portal, and confusing me!!! - NO WISE CRACKS!!! :)mad:)
     
  5. Condie

    Condie Member

    An Aquaintance of mine, guy called Bob Vickars, resides Vancouver BC, Runs a piling company there.
    Funny but he also reckons that BC is a beatifully natural place. He also claims to be
    of Scottish origin (a wannabe)
    I gotta admit, that against Ontario, which seemed very flat and wet when I was there, any place thats got sea and mountains will win the day.
    Oh! hang on a minute, Nova Scotia got that too aint it.

    Well who am I to make judgment coming from Essex UK!
     
  6. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    eejit - '
    youv'e been gone a long time - matter of fact I don't smoke anything - nor sniff - merely quoting the phrase which is pertinent to B.C. and which they are trying to change - to "the best place to live' - which doesn't really do justice to this province .

    Apparently there is nothing wrong with NS - I just haven't been there as yet - and I don't know what the natives think of it !
    Cheers
     
  7. Eddie98

    Eddie98 Junior Member

    Yogib,
    I'm an ex Black Watch soldier and I can honestly say that I've never seen nor heard of the lanyard being a part of the dress of a Black Watch soldier. I used to be a member of an ACF Unit and a TA Unit - We wore lanyards as part of our dress - in the bad old days - the lanyard "so I've been told" was used to help fire the big guns. I'll certainly try and find out if anyone else has any ideas or knows something about lanyards being worn in the Black Watch.
     
  8. Roxy

    Roxy Senior Member

    Folks,

    Don't forget the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders; they recruit from...

    And Moray!

    Roxy

    Obviously, it's the Seaforths that recruit from Moray, not the A&SH! Oops.
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Roxy -
    as do the Seaforths - and others ...
    Cheers
     
  10. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    And the 1st Tyneside Scottish were Black Watch in WWII and all from - youv'e got it - Tyneside, England. Still can't keep the Jocks on their side of the border. Oh, and I'm English of course; from Clan Ranald of McDonald.

    Best,

    Steve Mac.
     
  11. Eddie98

    Eddie98 Junior Member

    Yogib,
    I'm an ex Black Watch soldier and I can honestly say that I've never seen nor heard of the lanyard being a part of the dress of a Black Watch soldier. I used to be a member of an ACF Unit and a TA Unit - We wore lanyards as part of our dress - in the bad old days - the lanyard "so I've been told" was used to help fire the big guns. I'll certainly try and find out if anyone else has any ideas or knows something about lanyards being worn in the Black Watch.

    Yogib,
    Information obtained from the Great War Forum:

    In research carried out by Members of the MHS in the 1970s;it was stated that the nearest thing to Fourragere;were the CdeG [Green with Red Threads] Coloured Lanyards adopted & worn by the 9th RTR; The 6/7th Black Watch; & 128{Wessex] FA RAMC

    I've been told by a friend of mine on Forward The Forty Twa that the 6/7 Bn BW wore their French award on the left arm approx 4 fingers down from the shoulder.

    Your Uncle wears his lanyard on the right shoulder? I hope that this information is of use to you.
    Eddie
     
  12. Eddie98

    Eddie98 Junior Member

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  13. Eddie98

    Eddie98 Junior Member

    Yogib,
    Information obtained from Forward The Forty Twa - Above is a photograph from The Black Watch Archives - It clearly shows the lanyard in place on the right shoulder - the tunics look to be similar to that of your Uncles.

    I hope that this photograph is of some assistance to you
     
  14. bawcus

    bawcus Junior Member

    I've come late to this forum.

    I was born and raised in Kirkcaldy. Fife which was and still is a recruiting area for the Black Watch. During National Service most of my school chums who were called up for army service went into the Black Watch. I served with the 2nd Battalion Black Watch in BAOR Germany. After demob from my National Service I was required to join the Territorial Army and was a member of the 6/7th Black Watch, 51 HD. T.A., I attended parades at the Drill Hall in Hunter Street, Kirkcaldy 1954-56. We did not wear lanyards but as an earlier post mentioned wore the CdeG ribbon on our left shoulder in the position mentioned.
    I hope this is of help
     
  15. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    Sadly the one drawback with local recruiting is the tragedy when a unit takes heavy casualties. My late mother told of a day after the war when her family had a visit from a Major of 2nd Bn Gordon Highlanders a survivor of the Japanese camps. He was determined to visit the families of soldiers who did not make it home - 381 from the battalion. Most where local if a place like Glenbervie, Kincardinshire was local to anywhere! Mother said a smart but tearful, man apologised for not bringing a son and brother home. Insistence by my grandmother on staying for supper and a night in rest before he made another visit on his quest.
     

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