Italian Partisans Information

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Gazz, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Gazz

    Gazz Member

    I have found some information (see below) that may be going in the right direction the reference is signed 2 Pretoria Scottish but after finding the information below they may also have been known as the 2nd Transvaal Scottish who were in action at El Alamein and the fall of Tobruk. Was Capt E R Mclean possibly an escaped POW after his capture at Tobruk. Is there a Mclean on any of the POW lists that was in the South African Army, Transvaal Scottish?

    The regiment was formed in Pretoria on 1 July 1913 as the 12th Infantry (Pretoria Regiment) – a unit of the Active Citizen Force – by the amalgamation of several units: the Pretoria Company of the Transvaal Scottish, the Central South African Railway Volunteers, the Northern Mounted Rifles and the Pretoria detachment of the Transvaal Cycle and Motor Corps.

    In North Africa the 2nd Transvaal Scottish, together with two battalions consisting of members of the South African Police, served in the 6th South African Infantry Brigade. They assisted in the construction of the famous "Alamein Box". 6th South African Infantry Brigade attacked the fortified town of Sollum on 11 January 1942 as part of Operation Battleaxe and went on to fight in the battles of Bardia, Acroma Keep and Gazala. At Bardia, Sollum and Halfaya both German and Italian troops were forced to surrender to the Brigade. The majority of the battalion, along with the entire South African 2nd Division, was captured when the "fortress" of Tobruk fell at the end of the Battle of Gazala.[4]
  2. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Here's the relevant page for officers taken from the Imperial Prisoners of War in Italy document WO 392 21 National Archives and posted next to the cover page. No McLean, as I said in an earlier post.
    south african forces.JPG

    The only way to find out about the Captain is to obtain a copy of his service records from Pretoria.

  3. tedfromscrubs

    tedfromscrubs Junior Member

    Hello Gazz. Vitellino is doing sterling work looking into your father's partisan activities. I thought I'd also point you in the direction of this organisation which exists to commemmorate the bravery of the Italians who sheltered escaped PoWs. Monte San Martino Trust - Monte San Martino Trust They are in the process of putting their archive online and if you would care to share your father's story I'm sure they would be delighted.
    If your father was imprisoned near Fermo that would have been PG70 at Monte Urano. You might want to Google that since there is info online. Plus a book written by Ken de Souza "Escape from Ascoli" describes the camp and his daring escape.
    Another extremely knowledgeable source can be found here The Society - WW2 Escape Lines Memorial Society This site is pan-Euroepan but they know a lot about Italy.
    Good luck with your researches

  4. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    It might be worth contacting the Nembo Association via their website Associazione Nazionale "Nembo" to see if they can shed light on the Nembo Division L'Aquilla

    South African service records were moved to the DoD archives in Pretoria sometime ago and were no longer available to the public. I will try and find out whether they are now available.
  5. vitellino

    vitellino Senior Member

    Am quoting my own thread here. The Nembo Regiment was set up in September 44 AFTER Cpl. Weir had rejoined his lines.

    I have tried to find a group of partisans named Nembo in the area round L'Aquila but without success.

    However, I will contact the Nembo Association as suggested if anyone thinks it could useful in throwing some light on Capt. McLean.



    I have just looked at their website. There is one line about the Regiment which was set up as above.
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019
    Hi Gazz
    My father was in the camp the same time as your own according to his E&E report with a comment that of the 17 prisoners I have located in the Plemo work camp PG62/51 so far, ten passed through Fermo.
    I have a small file on Fermo which indicates it was a tough camp with poor food including a dish named ''skilly'' which dad mentioned to me which was described as '' hot water in which a bone had been stirred for flavour''
    Send me a PM and I will send what I have
  7. Gazz

    Gazz Member

    Thank you to everyone who has contributed with information, this is a very helpful and friendly forum.Trevor and Vitellino I have sent PMs.
    Thanks again

  8. DianeE

    DianeE Member

    South African service records were moved to the DoD archives in Pretoria sometime ago and were no longer available to the public. I will try and find out whether they are now available.
    I have e-mailed the South African DoD archives requesting the service record of Captain McLean. I will let you know their reply. Though please bear in mind that something like this request is not top of their priorities.
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  9. Gazz

    Gazz Member

    That is fantastic! Diane, it is much appreciated and I will look forwrd to the response but don't worry I know it can take some time my, Dads service records took 6 months to arrive. This forum is amazing.

    Thanks Again

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